Roses forum: help me identify this mystery rose

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Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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marymezzo
Jul 8, 2017 7:15 AM CST
Can any of you rose people help me identify this plant? I've posted 3 photographs.

The form is very upright. It's not a rugosa, an alba, or a gallica.

The bloom is small, white, semi-double, and not particularly fragrant, with a crown of golden stamens. The bud is slightly tinged with pink.

Please ignore the wild violets growing at the base of the plant. We're in the laborious process of clearing out this garden bed now.

thank you for any insights!
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Name: Lilli
Copenhagen, Denmark, EU
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IrisLilli
Jul 14, 2017 12:06 PM CST
It's lovely, but I have no idea what rose it is...

Good luck with your quest for an ID! Crossing Fingers!
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Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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marymezzo
Jul 14, 2017 12:49 PM CST
Thanks, IrisLilli. :-)
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Jul 22, 2017 1:41 PM CST
My first thought was Marie Pavie, http://www.helpmefind.com/rose... but most instances I've seen are more branched than this one.

(Not that I expect to actually be able to answer the original question but... ) Is this rose growing where it gets a lot of shade?
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 22, 2017 2:48 PM CST
Not Marie, I don't think. As you said it is not bushy enough. The bloom and growth form looks a lot like an unidentified Alba that I have. Why do you say not an Alba?.
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
Jul 23, 2017 9:33 AM CST
The two or three albas I've grown have more leaf coverage, more arching canes, more branching, and a lot more flowers when they are in bloom. Even growing in the perpetual shade of a maple tree not ten feet from the trunk, the alba in my current garden is a much bigger plant. Albas I'm familiar with have more petals in their flowers, I think. Finally there's a modern rose look to the foliage, a smoothness and a purple shading to new growth that I see mostly in roses with some tea rose heritage.
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Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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marymezzo
Jul 23, 2017 4:37 PM CST
Thanks, Steve and Porkpal--

The rose in question is blooming more heavily since I gave it a good pruning, and I'm pretty sure it's Prosperity. It certainly has the upright habit of many of the hybrid musks.

I planted a number of roses in that particular bed about 10 years ago and in recent years let it fall into disarray. That's a fancy way of saying I'd let it get full of weeds. A number of the roses died. I knew which ones I'd planted, but couldn't remember what I'd planted where.

The current blooms are fuller than the one I photographed.

I think Marie Pavie is actually a really good guess. It *does* look a fair amount like Marie, although the blooms are whiter and less blush pink, but I know it isn't because I didn't plant one. (Well, unless something I did plant was misidentified.)

Long way of saying thank you for taking the time!
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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marymezzo
Jul 23, 2017 4:42 PM CST
Couple of other things:

Steve, this rose bed gets about six hours of sun per day. So some shade but not too much. The albas have done a better job of surviving than anything else in the bed. They're huge. Now that I've gotten the bed mostly free of weeds and started taking out the dead wood the albas have accumulated, I expect they'll have a really good spring next year.

Porkpal, I don't think I said this, but I shot the photos just a couple of weeks ago. So I knew the plant in question wasn't a spring-bloomer (e.g., alba, gallica, etc.).

Thanks again, both of you!
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
Jul 23, 2017 6:04 PM CST
Haha. A trick question. Smiling

It's always a bit easier to rule out cultivars than to guess the right ones.

It's also a little difficult to know when roses in everyone else's zones are blooming. I suppose I should have guessed that the albas would be done by now (in this hemisphere.) I wasn't sure when the photo was taken.

My Prosperity roses are just gearing up for their second flush of blooms this year. It took them about four seasons to come up to speed.

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