Lilies forum: Crossing tetras with diploids

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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 8, 2017 9:53 AM CST
Particulary in the trumpet realm, I have decent amounts of both and would like to cross some. Anyone know what the best outcome is? Tetra pod x diploid pollen or diploid pod x tetra pollen? I have heard that it can work but possibly create triploids? Anyone have experience with this?
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 8, 2017 12:38 PM CST

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I haven't messed around with this but I have read that using higher ploidy pollen on lower ploidy pod parent works best. Sorry don't recall my sources but I have come across it several times. I'm sure it was discussed on the yahoo group at one time or another.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 8, 2017 2:09 PM CST

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Tetra pollen to diploid pod, in my experience, matches up best. Or triploid pod to tetra pollen. My 2 cents on how I have had luck.
Tracey
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jul 8, 2017 3:39 PM CST
Tretra pollen onto Diploid stigma/style. The reason is the very long stigma/ style of tetras prevent the pollen tubes of lessor ploidity from traveling all the way down to the ovary and still be alive when they get there. Diploids, generally have the shortest stigma/style of all three ploidities, but not always. Make a visual examination first and then decide your route. Sometime, you might want to try cutting the style shorter.
Sydney, Australia (Zone 10b)
Protoavis
Jul 8, 2017 5:17 PM CST
Most papers I've been reading as of late say the same as above, more success using tetra pollen.
Although I'm been reading primarily to figure out potential paths to get L.Philippenese traits (seed to bloom within a year, evergreen) into a wide tetra line, will get there eventually (determined).....really wish Easter Morn was available here or some other tetra LL?? (most things are triploid and of an L?? configuration so likely not viable) so I don't have to wait a couple years for the seedlings from NALS I have to get to blooming age. (ie atleast another 18 months to go and that's if they bloom quickly...which they might I mean it's middle of winter and most are still with green leaves so very very long growing season)
Anyone with oryzalin (aka Surflan, Embargo), am looking for a small amount rather than 5litres from manufacturer (min size in Australia....)
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 8, 2017 5:35 PM CST
Easter Morn is great but I've heard it's triploid. I'm throwing tetra pollen on it to see what I get.

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