Plant Database forum: Help with search

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 10, 2017 11:55 AM CST
I have a NOID witch hazel. I'm trying to get a list of all Hamamelis with yellow bloom, and am not easily figuring out how to do that. What am I missing?
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valleylynn
Jul 10, 2017 3:19 PM CST
It doesn't look like there is a Parent Plant for Hamamelis. So I just did a search for Hamamelis and came up with a list from the database. Seems that most of them have a thumbnail of the bloom, so it's easy to see color right off. https://garden.org/plants/sear...

Hope this is helpful Deb?
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KentPfeiffer
Jul 10, 2017 7:00 PM CST

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edited. posted in wrong thread.
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jul 10, 2017 7:21 PM CST

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Well, there should be.

Dave,
Please make Witch Hazels (Hamamelis) the Main Plant entry for all plants in genus Hamamelis and name the database Witch Hazels (Hamamelis).
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dave
Jul 11, 2017 10:04 AM CST

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Done, thank you Evan!

The Witch Hazels Database
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eclayne
Jul 11, 2017 10:33 AM CST

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Great! Only seven yellow flowered plants show up in a search so it looks like we need to flush out the data for this database.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 15, 2017 6:46 AM CST
I'm running into the same problem with Heuchera - how do I know if a plant has a parent entry? I'm trying to search for a yellowish leafed heuchera I have but can't put a name to it.
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valleylynn
Jul 15, 2017 9:00 AM CST
There isn't a Parent Plant for Heuchera. Seems like there should be.
Deb if you go to the Plant Database you will find a box on the right side with a list of plants. If heuchera had a Parent Plant it would be in that list.
Wait, I just found a Parent Plant under coral bells? Shouldn't that come up on a search for heuchera?
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 15, 2017 9:10 AM CST
I noticed that the parent plants are listed by common name, which seems odd to me. I rarely think of heucheras as coral bells, although I do know that is a common name for them. I didn't even think to look for that...thanks.
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jul 15, 2017 9:20 AM CST

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Some of the custom databases in that list have common names while others have the Latin name.

An easy way to see if a plant has a custom database is to search using the genus name. A search for Heuchera yields https://garden.org/plants/sear... with the white box near the top showing Visit our Coral Bells Plant Care Guide and Database. This phrase indicates there is a custom database.
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Because the database is called Coral Bells that search yields https://garden.org/plants/sear...

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 15, 2017 10:01 AM CST
I wish we could just use the botanical name for everything, with the common name as an aside. Seems more accurate for a database.
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Calif_Sue
Jul 15, 2017 2:03 PM CST

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Not everyone (probably most coming here) knows botanical genus names. At least by entering a common name, you can quickly narrow it down to the genus.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 15, 2017 2:19 PM CST
Perhaps. But since entering a common name will bring up the plant's botanical name, why not just be accurate across the board? Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I try to actively teach myself the correct name and find it confusing when some things go by the real name and others go by made-up common names (which can vary greatly depending on regions). Drives me a bit bonkers.
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