Cactus and Succulents forum: Issues with Pork & Beans plant

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krystenr1
Jul 12, 2017 8:26 AM CST
I noticed that my Pork & Beans plant was losing most of its beautiful red color off of its tips that it had when I originally bought it and I'm losing a lot of its jellybean leaves. The stems also seem to be turning brown. What could this be from? I hardly ever water it, and it lives indoors here in the Los Angeles dry heat. I just moved to a new house and placed it outside yesterday, where it will get more daily sunlight (before it was inside in an east facing window and only got a few hours of direct sunlight). Is this a good plan?


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Baja_Costero
Jul 12, 2017 8:38 AM CST

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No, get the plant out of the direct overhead sun this time of year. The transition from indoor sun (which lacks most of the UV) to outdoor sun can be quite harsh on plants which have not had a chance to adjust. If you want to provide some outdoor sun, try morning sun or filtered light, something a little kinder, because the mid day sun is really strong this time of year.

How often do you water? I would say once a week might be good for that pot in good light this time of year. I'm guessing based on the appearance of the plant that it's dropping leaves because it's thirsty. Water well (until water comes out the bottom) when you do water.
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purpleinopp
Jul 14, 2017 4:04 PM CST
I've only had this plant for a couple years but it has only gotten red during the winter, then turns green again while it's hot, days are long.
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krystenr1
Jul 21, 2017 10:38 AM CST
Baja_Costero said:No, get the plant out of the direct overhead sun this time of year. The transition from indoor sun (which lacks most of the UV) to outdoor sun can be quite harsh on plants which have not had a chance to adjust. If you want to provide some outdoor sun, try morning sun or filtered light, something a little kinder, because the mid day sun is really strong this time of year.

How often do you water? I would say once a week might be good for that pot in good light this time of year. I'm guessing based on the appearance of the plant that it's dropping leaves because it's thirsty. Water well (until water comes out the bottom) when you do water.


Welp, I took your advice and moved it out of the sun immediately, but the damage was done. It's been on a downward death spiral ever sinc, even with a thorough watering as you suggested. Here it is now. I assume all hope is lost? Or could I try propagating?



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Baja_Costero
Jul 21, 2017 11:15 AM CST

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Don't give up until all the leaves are gone. I would think propagation would be dicey when the plant is in crisis to start with.
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krystenr1
Jul 21, 2017 11:45 AM CST
Baja_Costero said:Don't give up until all the leaves are gone. I would think propagation would be dicey when the plant is in crisis to start with.


Alrighty. I'll keep trying! I think maybe I underwatered all of my succulents because I was very afraid of overwatering. I'm not quite sure what the watering schedule should look like at this size and in a pretty hot summer.
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Baja_Costero
Jul 21, 2017 11:59 AM CST

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You can try putting in a moisture meter, or your finger, or a chopstick, to get a sense of when the soil is going dry below the surface. The hotter it is, the more sun protection you should give your sensitive succulents in crisis. They might not look visibly better until it cools down again, but try to be consistent about the watering and things will probably improve.
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tarev
Jul 21, 2017 12:50 PM CST
Hello krystenr1, my Sedum rubrotinctum does that reddish color tinge during winter too, then it slowly turns all green as the summer heat comes about. But I grow my plant outdoors year round, it gets part sun/part shade.

Between Sedum rubrotintinctum and Sedum morganianum, S. rubrotinctum is more able to take a bit of direct sun but it has to be acclimated properly. Like any succulent that has been grown indoors or overwintered indoors, it has to be positioned to part shade outdoors till it gets used to the ambient heat, humidity etc. If you position them right away to direct sun, then you will surely end up with fried succulents as what occurred to your plants.

If it were early Spring right now or early Fall, I would ideally cut the remaining rosette tip, let it callus and stick it back to soil. But it is the height of summer now, so I would not do it, too stressful already to your already stressed plants. So again be patient, let that plant adjust/acclimate to your outdoor shade for now. I find it helps to cool down the roots by top dressing my succulents with a mix of pumice and chicken grit (insoluble crushed granite).

It will be an ongoing part of this plant's growth maintenance to cut the plant at a lower length after it has dropped the lower leaves. Its upright growing habit will make it look rather leggy as more stem is exposed. It can still grow new leaves from the exposed stem but it grows newer leaves faster at the center tips.
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krystenr1
Jul 21, 2017 3:01 PM CST
Wow thanks everyone, this is all very helpful! I will add pumice to the top of this baby and give it a lot less sun than I originally thought I should!!

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