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Jul 12, 2017 8:56 PM CST
Colorado
Hi, I need help identify these plants pls, thank you so much!

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Jul 13, 2017 6:26 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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#1 amaranth, 4o'clock
#2 green bean, petunia, 4o'clock, purslane, cucumber.....
#3 tomato.

Nice looking vegetable patch...
All those flowers help attract pollinators, and... The amaranth helps as a trap crop for bugs, and also functions as a nutrient accumulator.
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Jul 14, 2017 12:17 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Um, just curious, but would someone not know a tomato plant?
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Jul 14, 2017 1:12 AM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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mint?
sweet potato
and tomato.
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Jul 14, 2017 5:32 AM CST
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
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Yardenman said:Um, just curious, but would someone not know a tomato plant?


Perhaps they took a photo of someone elses garden. When it is not my garden, I have suffered a "duh" moment too. nodding
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Jul 14, 2017 6:25 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Yardenman said:would someone not know a tomato plant?


You gotta start somewhere, and... City people get their food from the store, or restaurant.

Most people don't know what food plants look like.

When I was a kid, I tried smoking bidens, and tumbleweed, trying to find wild growing marijuana.
Eventually I did learn what it looked like..... But it took a bit of research, and willingness to ask questions.

Let's give people the benefit of the doubt, and applaud
their developing interest n horticulture.
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Jul 14, 2017 6:48 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
stone said:

You gotta start somewhere, and... City people get their food from the store, or restaurant.

Most people don't know what food plants look like.

When I was a kid, I tried smoking bidens, and tumbleweed, trying to find wild growing marijuana.
Eventually I did learn what it looked like..... But it took a bit of research, and willingness to ask questions.

Let's give people the benefit of the doubt, and applaud
their developing interest n horticulture.


My apologies. I guess I've known tomatoes from childhood. I was thinking, is there any tomato not deliberately planted?
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Jul 14, 2017 7:51 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Yardenman said: I was thinking, is there any tomato not deliberately planted?


yep...

I get all kinds of surprises when I spread compost in the flower garden....
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Jul 14, 2017 8:18 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Always one to admire a volunteer, but your compost bin needs to be hotter. ;)

I like mine to steam. I bet there is a thread on composting... I'll do a search.
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Jul 14, 2017 8:23 AM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I had some tomatoes come up in my lawn this year, I guess seeds from old plants from previous years.
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Jul 14, 2017 8:31 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Frillylily said:I had some tomatoes come up in my lawn this year, I guess seeds from old plants from previous years.


I should have thought that. I planted a new hummingbird/butterfly garden and tossed in old veggie seeds to fill it up the 1st year. Best radishes I've ever harvested...
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Jul 14, 2017 8:47 AM CST
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
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Yardenman said:Always one to admire a volunteer, but your compost bin needs to be hotter. ;)

I like mine to steam. I bet there is a thread on composting... I'll do a search.


Steaming mine does but it is only due to our excessive summer heat. Rolling on the floor laughing I garden in raised beds and allow one to lay fallow each summer. In that bed I dump twigs, vegetable and fruit scraps, old potting soil, etc. I turned it under and in the fall (if I remember) I seed a cover crop in that bed. In spring it is ready to plant and another bed takes its' turn.

That is said to say this... yep, I occassionally have volunteers and I am not above letting them try to produce at will. This year I have dined on volunteer lettuce, chives and now I'm cheering a couple of volunteer tomatoes on. Yes, I have a sick sense of entertainment in the garden. Whistling
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Jul 14, 2017 8:55 AM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Nah, I know what you mean. This Spring, I tossed all my "too old" veggie seeds in the hummingbird garden. Best radishes I've ever harvested!
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Jul 14, 2017 11:22 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Yardenman said:Always one to admire a volunteer, but your compost bin needs to be hotter.


Nope.
I cold compost... On purpose.
I think that entirely too much effort is put into a style of composting that delivers less product and in my opinion, inferior.

When God makes compost, it breaks down slowly, and all the seeds are allowed to fight it out with the most suitable surviving to pass on their genes.

If you've ever done side by side composting, I'm sure that you found that cold compost produced like twice or three times as much from the same volume.

Ok, so on another thread I discussed my weeding philosophy, but.... In short, God didn't make weeds, and all plants have value.. and when I practice triage to give certain plants an edge... I'm not trying to remove anyone completely from the garden.

Incidentally, I "rescued" an echinacea bed last week...
I allowed the lambs quarter to almost completely crowd the echinacea out over a number of years... The few survivors will hopefully be able to pass on tougher genes to the next generation... They immediately started blooming once the competition was removed....

In my previous garden, I had cow peas that returned every year.... In this one, the everglades tomatoes do a pretty good job of self sowing....
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Jul 14, 2017 1:25 PM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
If I did that, I would have a lawn in the framed beds. I appreciate what works for you, but if I don't get a 4x4x4' bed full and steaming, all I've done is send my weeds and weed seeds to Eden.
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Jul 14, 2017 3:08 PM CST
Name: Bea Kimball
Little Rock, Arkansas; (Zone 7b)
Butterflies Echinacea Hellebores Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Deer won the battle of vegetable survival, but I have volunteer melampodium, rudbeckia and herbs. Along a hillside butterfly weed has self seeded as well.
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Jul 15, 2017 10:47 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Yardenman said:If I did that, I would have a lawn in the framed beds.

Ewww.
How much of your property gets mowed?

I can't be the only person here that has discovered how much easier a pollinator garden is than lawn.... Not to mention... Sustainable...

Everywhere I've ever put down roots, everything comes up in wildflowers... Before ever plant anything...

Creeps me out how the Autumn bloom seems to fire up the road crew's determination to turn beautiful flwrs into brown stubble.... The same as running water causes a beaver to start gnawing down trees.

People don't seem to realize that lawn mowers and string trimmers turn wildflowers into weedpatches...

I get disturbed every time I observe someone destroy a natural patch of wildflowers in the name of "tidiness".
It isn't, you know.
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Jul 26, 2017 3:39 PM CST
Name: Bea Kimball
Little Rock, Arkansas; (Zone 7b)
Butterflies Echinacea Hellebores Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I don't think my neighbors would tolerate a field of wildflowers in the front yard. The Nextdoor website has several postings of folks who have gotten citations for having wildflower lawns. However, I did dig an island bed in my front lawn and filled it with a nicely edged pollinator garden. There is very little lawn left, just a few hundred square feet. In the 20 years since I started eliminating lawn, more close neighbors have added front gardens. It certainly brightens the neighborhood.
When I had a backyard, I also used the cold compost method. I didn't have the time and energy to deal with a hot pile. I used to love those volunteer tomatoes. Now my back yard is a mountain. I let nature compost the leaf litter.
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