Plant ID forum: Shrub id and disease id

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Richmond VA
Jul 14, 2017 7:26 AM CST

I would like to ask if someone can id my shrubs. They are probably several decades old. They were planted as a hedge close to the property line alternating with Holly shrubs on a distance of about 80ft. The whole hedge had grown to about 14-18ft tall and about 8ft in depth since I last trimmed it about 3 years ago to about 10ft tall and 5ft in depth. I know that they were even taller than that in the past possibly reaching 20ft or more.

Mature leaves are about 6in long. I think earlier in the season younger leaves turn dark red but typically they are dark green. I dont remember what flowers they are capable of producing but there is definitely some. I was under impression that they are some kind of Magnolia but can not be sure. I think they also produce some kind of dark little berries.

Now they have had some sort of disease for as long as at least 7 years. It was present on maybe half of the foliage. It never looked like the whole plant was attacked so I just was not paying too much attention to it. This year I trimmed half of the hedge significantly to get it into a more manageable size. I removed most of the branches to start forming shrubs to about 6ft tall and 3-4ft of depth. The Holly shrubs show a significant new growth after 3 months but the other plants have problem producing new healthy leaves. They get a lot of brown spots as the leaves on the untrimmed plants and they curl up and eventually turn dry and dead. I also discovered some mites on the youngest leaves.

Thank you.

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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Plant Identifier Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Jul 14, 2017 7:58 AM CST
Looks like Japanese privet....
Some of the branches look like photinia...

Either way.... No loss.

More like an oppurtunity to try bushes that you've been wishing you had... Like blueberries or camelia.
Richmond VA
Jul 14, 2017 8:26 AM CST
Yes Photinia seems to be the plant that I was trying to find out about. Thank you.

...and I look at it there might have been Japanese privet in the pictures. Looks like it might be in the hedge besides Holly and Photinia.

So now off to identifying Photinia disease. I will post in the appropriate forum.
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Plant Identifier Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Jul 14, 2017 11:52 AM CST
Photinia disease is pretty much a slow death... And not much can be done.... Except.... As I said, recognize it as an oppurtunity.

Photinia wood is very hard, and you would do well to start cleaning it out as you have the time and energy.
It's not something you are going to want to be doing when the new plants are sitting there.

I would not plant aggressive privet bushes.... Far better to plant something that would be helpful to the birds...
Do y'all have wax myrtle up your way?
Richmond VA
Jul 14, 2017 1:43 PM CST
Yes I have seen wax myrtle around. Do you have experience with that plant. How are its aromatic properties? If I had to add a new plant on my property I would love it had some additional properties. So far there is lots of old holly, photinia, azalea, japanese privet, forsythia and boxwood plants that have been in overgrowth state for probably last 20 years or more and I am slowly trying to train them to a more manageable and appealing condition.

Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Plant Identifier Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Jul 14, 2017 5:15 PM CST
Wax myrtle is about the nicest shrub anyone could plant.... If they were going to limit their choices to evergreen.

The birds eat the berries, and build nests in the shrubs... In my experience, far more than in the other trees and shrubs.

The leaves are great in cooking.... I use in poultry and wild game.

I haven't tried candle making, but someone with bees? Would be a good option.

I've tried using the leaves as mosquito repellent... Seemed to help...

I don't have much appreciation for any of your list of existing shrubs...
If the hollies produce berries... Then that's a positive...

Are those native azaleas?
Or the oriental ones?
Even the oriental azaleas and forsythia can be tolerated for their flowers.... Neither are particular favourites of mine....

As far as privet and boxwood?
I'd totally get rid of them.

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