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Name: Pamela Gregory
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PamelaLynn77
Jul 14, 2017 11:05 AM CST
Curious what everyone thinks..............

I'm cuious as to how everyone handles thier new plants from stores like lowes, home depot. I still get them for gifts from my husband.
Personally I'm not going to mention to him that I dont do that myself anymore due to issues in the past.
So the soil looks very crappy but the plants looks great. Nothing to complain about. Its a beautiful plant.
Again I just want to know differnt Ideas for getting this guy settled in.
Different opinions and things you have done or good or bad experiences you had.
I will repot him into a pretty pot and find his spot in the flowers set up on the deck.
Would you try and replace a lot of the soil now? If so what would your mix be for persian shields. I had good luck last year with basic care full sun... which faded him about August, but the entire time he was beautiful then I started having issues trying to get him in the house and I believe nov was when I gave up some of you may remember. He looked terrible at that point. Poor guy. Lol
Propagation was fun and worked very easy for me, rooted in water.

What about pinching this pretty guy? N its bloom? I prefer the Foliage. Do you perfer the bloom. Im uncertain if I should pinch it back now all at once or a little at a time.
The plant seems great Id guess just do it all????
I added pics. Happy Gardening, thanks for everything๐Ÿ˜œ
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WillC
Jul 14, 2017 12:56 PM CST
Your new plant is healthy and the soil is fine. Don't judge the soil by the way it looks. There is no reason to repot your plant and it doesn't seem like you are really eager to repot, anyway. As for preferring a better-looking pot, just select a planter that is large enough for you to put the existing pot inside of it.

Pinching will help keep your plant full and compact. I agree the foliage is more attractive than the flowers.
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Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Jul 15, 2017 9:14 AM CST
I've always liked the coloring best in bright shade with little to no direct sun. That seems to produce the most intense, deep purple color.


If it will stay in a black pot, that can contribute to the roots getting more hot than needed, if/when the sun shines on the pot.

After many winters of keeping this plant inside for winter, I gave up on the idea of it continuing to look good during that time. But as long as it is still alive in the spring, a few weeks of being back outside should get it looking so good again. Whether or not this is of interest depends on your personal taste. I only happen to run into this plant for sale every 4-6 yrs, so am unable to rely on just replacing, even if I had a budget for buying the same plant over & over.

Whenever I've had flowers on my plants, inside or out, it was during winter. They are pretty exciting & welcome then, even if they aren't as big and showy as some other blooms. These showed up on an outside plant during a mild winter a few yrs ago (usually only root hardy here.)

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TennesseeDave
Jul 15, 2017 9:41 AM CST
I agree that the best color is obtained in bright shade.
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Jai_Ganesha
Jul 15, 2017 9:48 AM CST
The only things I automatically re-pot are cacti and succulents. Even "good" nurseries often put their succulents in soil that is WAY too rich and nutrient-dense.

I find that when I have my cacti and succulents in soil which is almost half perilite and a third rocks that they do much better. They don't need or want all that extra moisture or nutriment and it will in fact eventually kill them.

Everything else I bring home is re-potted (or not) on an individual basis. For example, I got a spider plant which was massively root bound and I re-potted it the same day. But I have a cute little Fittonia which has not needed re-potting at all.
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plantmanager
Jul 15, 2017 9:50 AM CST
I do it the same way. If the plant looks happy and isn't rootbound, I leave it as is. I do re-pot all cacti because most of the time they do not drain well enough in the nursery mix.
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Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Jul 15, 2017 9:51 AM CST
Great minds think alike! :smily:
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Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Jul 15, 2017 10:01 AM CST
I forgot to say above, whether I was saving in OH or more recently in AL, I always had the most vigorous saved plants (while wintering inside) when I repotted them a few weeks before bringing inside, chopping off the bottom few inches of root ball, removing all old soil, replacing with new soil. Often fits back into the same pot.

A little late this year to bother and your plant looks fantastic & well proportioned as-is, but if you keep over winter & still alive in spring, & if interested, you could try snipping the longer, more gangly stems and sticking them deeply into the ground where you would like some "as annuals" for the summer. Mama plant will be more compact & should sprout a lot of vigorous new branches & those cuttings can outgrow the mama & can yield a lot of branches that can be cut & saved in bottles of water on a windowsill over winter if space is tight. These will have significant roots by spring (don't use bottles with very small openings, like beer bottles,) and are more of a sure-thing than grounding just-taken cuttings, which can dry out so much more easily, especially if you are unable to check/water them daily.
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Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Jul 15, 2017 9:30 PM CST
I agree with that, too--it's always a good idea to prune the roots when you prune the stems. The roots often get forgotten but doing both at the same time can really make a difference.
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Name: Pamela Gregory
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PamelaLynn77
Jul 16, 2017 7:46 AM CST
Perfect!!! Thanks ladies!!!
I do appreciate the different out look on planting my plants. Im still learning
Last year was my first year with this plant
I wasn't able to save the plant over winter last year but I have full intensions of doing so this year with success!
I did root the persian shields also in water but
I waited really... far too long to plant the roots were 4inchs long.. lol some more. So they ended up burned on me leaving them outside too long and it was like 100 degrees. . It Burnt the leaves bad. They died when I potted every one of them ! I am also 90 percent more prepared for that this time and I will not put the rooting stems on the deck in 100 degree weather. Lol
Thanks again everyone! !!!!
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purpleinopp
Jul 16, 2017 8:29 AM CST
Happy to share what I've seen. ;)

Any plant that has been inside all winter can burn easily, even if it was used to being in the sun all day the previous summer. The plants that are lucky enough to sit right next to a window where the sun shines right on them have less of an adjustment to make, but those will also burn if put right on the other side of the window. The difference in the intensity & availability without the walls blocking most of it is astonishing & powerful.
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The less I interfere, the more balance mother nature provides.
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Name: Pamela Gregory
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PamelaLynn77
Jul 20, 2017 10:49 PM CST
Ladies the more iv messed around with this persian shield is seems very pot bound. The roots are now growing back out the top of the soil.
I believe i will repot and maybe trim a little root off and add a little new soil. Im going to use a pot a and inch or so bigger than its current container.
Everyone feel this is a fine idea?
Thanks everyone!
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Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Jul 21, 2017 6:39 AM CST
As a wise old drag queen once said,

"There's nothing wrong with being a lady but I'm only gonna be one if you pay me for it!"

lol
Keep going!
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL ๐ŸŒต๐ŸŒทโš˜๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒป (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Jul 21, 2017 12:35 PM CST
LOL, Jack!

Pamela, it sounds like what I would do, including removing the old soil if it will come off. Sometimes there's a fibrous peat that's horribly stuck to roots. None of these root balls ever live more than a few years. The propagated offspring with normal roots in any other kind of soil usually do fine, and those are the long-lived plants in my care.

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The less I interfere, the more balance mother nature provides.
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Name: Pamela Gregory
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PamelaLynn77
Jul 21, 2017 2:08 PM CST
Thanks everyone Group hug

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