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Mar 22, 2018 6:40 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
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I'm all about what I see during the growing season, as far as standouts. I do freeze pollen every year so have an array of pollens to choose from. Frozen pollen to me means I have found value in the lily and it was worth crossing with another. It opens up all sorts of options I wouldn't normally have "in that moment"...if that makes sense at all.
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Apr 14, 2018 11:50 PM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Good luck everyone with your 'crazy' crosses this summer.

If anyone is considering 'Lankon' in their programme, I have seen the evidence that 'Lankon' is fertile on orientals. Tasmanian breeder Neil Jordan has produced OOLA hybrids via embryo rescue, and they look very very promising. He benched a pair this summer at the Latrobe show, but I don't have pics with me on this computer to share. Imagine a spotted golden ray pattern on a very pale lavender-purple background.

Dreaming big and putting in the effort pays off!
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Apr 16, 2018 5:49 AM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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So Lankon is pollen fertile? Please find the pics Della!
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Apr 16, 2018 6:57 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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I have used Lankon pollen (completely protected HP, of course) and have gotten some pods resulting. But so far, none have produce anything that even looks like it might be viable.
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Apr 16, 2018 9:21 AM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I used Lankon on a couple things last year, with no pods even forming. Though I didn't try it on any orientals. Orientals never crossed my mind honestly with the background of Lankon.
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Apr 16, 2018 9:31 AM CST
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I had heard it was pod fertile, so I slapped all sorts of tetra pollens on it. Nothing resembling a normal pod.
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Apr 17, 2018 1:35 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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I've put pink heaven pollen on Lankon and got nothing. Pink heaven is a supposed tetra LO. Very intrigued now!
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Apr 17, 2018 9:15 PM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
I'll do my best to find the pics.

I get pods easily on Lankon, sometimes ones that look good, but always full of chaff. I hadn't tried the pollen.
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May 6, 2018 2:17 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Dear and patient Lily friends! Here are the promised hybrid pics... Neil Jordan's auratum platyphyllum hybrid x 'Lankon', achieved via embryo rescue.

Neil displayed these two siblings from the cross at this year's NWTLS Latrobe Show, Tasmania. It may be hard to pick from my (not great) photos, but the ground colour of both flowers is a pale lavender, which apparently harks to the lankongense background and is otherwise not possible from the L. auratum. Hopefully you can see the shortened pedicels and their placement from the longiflorum background. Lots of potential to be drawn from these plants and other OOLAs, I think, if the vigour of longiflorum passes on to future generations but more grace and fascinating colour possibilities can be expressed from oriental and asiatic parents.

All kudos to the perseverance of Neil's breeding efforts!

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May 7, 2018 6:30 PM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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Thanks for all the thumbs and acorns guys! Smiling

I hope you're all inspired to try a little 'Lankon' pollen this summer.
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May 7, 2018 8:02 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Well as you mention, this is an important first step. Not that it was supposed to, but for me at least, this initial result dosn't cut it as a final product.
It has zero grace, in my opinion.
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May 7, 2018 9:08 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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It looks straight up oriental to me. It reminds me of some orientals that Lisa (Buggy Crazy) hybridized. Interesting what traits it did (and didn't) pick up. Thanks for sharing.
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May 7, 2018 9:37 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Looking forward to seeing more on this type of cross. Yes, it looks quite Oriental.
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May 8, 2018 12:28 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
I'm surprised too, just how Oriental it appears. Neil had to explain to me how he was certain that it was a true hybrid from Lankon.

Not graceful at all, Rick, which is why I would hope they (and other OOLAs) would be good bridging plants for breeding back to graceful species such as L. lankongense itself, or other pendant asiatics. The pollen on them looked good but I haven't heard if they're fertile or not. Crossing Fingers!
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May 10, 2018 12:41 PM CST
Name: Patrick
Midland, Michigan (Zone 6a)
Della - thanks for posting this. Looks straight oriental to me. If it were my baby created with the greatest care using embryo rescue I would doubt it to be a true cross. My guess is either stray pollen from another oriental or apomictic seed production. I am glad Neil is trying these types of crosses but there is not enough evidence to convince me based on the pictures... The flower looks oriental, the leaves look oriental, and short pedicels are within the norm of oriental seedlings. The other test is if it shows normal fertility - if it sets seed with oriental pollen would be additional doubt for this being a wide cross.

Thanks again for the follow-up!

Patrick
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May 12, 2018 11:32 PM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
I understand where you're coming from, Patrick. I had to ask for the evidence behind it being a true cross. Based on Neil's conviction that it is though, and knowing his attention to detail in his hybridising, I'm prepared to consider it true unless proven otherwise. It would be great if Neil could access the facilities to do a genetic assay ...but not within the budget! Seeing how it behaves in future breeding is the next best test.

And nether hurts to try replicating the cross - hope springs eternal! nodding

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