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Name: Jared Nicholes
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jnicholes
Jul 15, 2017 3:20 PM CST
Hi everyone,

Me and my father were just talking and he said , "I would like to have more corn. Can we have more next year?"

I said, "Yes, but how will we handle the weeds?"

That is what I am posting about today, I have 20 feet by 100 feet of garden space in my backyard. Half of it will be for corn next year. The rest will stay the same. However, look at it now.

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That's the half I want to use next year. It's full of weeds. My question is, once all of my gardening is done this year, should I spray for weeds, then plant vegetables and corn next season? If so, what kind of spray should I use?

Any help figuring this out will be appreciated,

Jared
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porkpal
Jul 15, 2017 3:29 PM CST
Most of those weeds look too dead to kill (!) Plants need to be actively growing to absorb herbicides. I would just mow all that stuff down and see what is left later in the summer, then either pull it up or treat it with a glyphosate herbicide, carefully following the instructions on the label.
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DaisyI
Jul 15, 2017 4:36 PM CST
Its the seeds from all those weeds that you will have to worry about. Most weeds are annuals.
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Name: greene
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greene
Jul 15, 2017 5:09 PM CST
You are young and healthy. Get out there and pull the weeds and get rid of them, either burn or bag them. Then rake the soil smooth. As soon as you see new weeds sprout, get the hoe and cut them down. Keep doing this until all or most of the seeds have sprouted.

In the spring you can apply a pre-emergent that will stop any new weed seeds from successfully growing. Keep in mind that the pre-emergent will necessitate you starting the corn in flats and setting out small corn plants rather than direct-seeding.

And since your dad wants more corn, um, he can help do some of the work or at least pay for the pre-emergent. Rolling on the floor laughing
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ctcarol
Jul 15, 2017 5:39 PM CST
I agree with Green! Round Up will only work on actively growing plants...the smaller the better. Some of the other types of weed killers will render the ground sterile for ? It takes a lot of work to prepare a new garden, but once you get it established, it will be easier to maintain with mulch and diligence.
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greene
Jul 15, 2017 5:49 PM CST
Turning the soil several times not only brings the weed seeds to the surface so you can kill them before they grow too large but also brings insects/eggs/larva etc. to the surface so the birds and other critters can de-bug your garden.
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Name: Jared Nicholes
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jnicholes
Jul 15, 2017 7:16 PM CST
Hello There,

Thank you all so much for the help. I really appreciate it. I think I will take the advice @greene gave me. As soon as it cools down, I will start clearing out that area. Then in the spring, I will just go out daily and take out any other weeds I see.

And yes, my dad WILL help out. Dont worry!

Jared
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plantmanager
Jul 15, 2017 7:30 PM CST
Good luck, Jared. Lots of fresh corn will be wonderful and worth the work!
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Nominix
Jul 16, 2017 7:41 AM CST
Here is an organic method that may work for you. Its called Stale Seedbedding.

Till the area or mow it down and then till - ( not 100% needed but it makes things easier and all the detritus acts as a green manure.)

Get yourself a large enough piece of 6 mil black plastic ( Lowes / Home Depot) and cover the area and throw some rocks or sandbags, boards, Just whatever you have, down around the edges to keep it from blowing away. Since its for next years garden you have all that time to let the ground "cook". This process is extremely good for your soil as well as all the bacteria and worms.

Come next year - If you have kept it all covered - once you remove the plastic ( the day you are going to plant) you have a completely weed free area. If you previously tilled and havent walked on it - then your ground should still be soft ish - Note - DO NOT TILL - use a spade or broadfork to loosen the soil - If you overturn your soil, new weeds will germinate. Using a spade or broadfork - push the tines into the ground and pull back slightly. Your only trying to aerate the soil and this process will not overturn it - which would allow new weeds to germinate.

Once you are happy with the area - plant and you should have a largely weed free area throughout the growing season. You cant help weed seeds that blow in from other areas but they are easy to spot and pull real quick.
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lauriebasler
Jul 16, 2017 10:00 PM CST
Greene, you put that perfectly.

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