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Name: Jane
Tobyhanna, PA (Zone 5a)
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PAgirl63
Jul 17, 2017 1:25 PM CST
Annie,

You are the cat whisperer and the cat lady rolled into one. 50 cats? That's a LOTTA CATS!

I've been around cats all my life, too. I was maybe around 4 or 5, but I can still remember my mom bringing in strays and pregnant cats. Kittens under the couch all the time!

The strangest encounter I can remember with cats, was with a neighbor about 30 years ago. The woman came running over to my house one morning, crying that she had accidently set her cat on fire! It was TRULY an accident. She had found a bloated tick on one of her cat's ears, so she rubbed the area with alcohol thinking it might force the tick out. When it didn't budge, she unthinkingly ... more like just plain stupid if you ask me ... lit a cigarette lighter thinking the flame would ease the tick out. Woosh! Ear on fire! I rushed her and her cat to the vet. Things turned out OK, thank God. The cat lost part of her ear, but she recovered and she was fine after that. True story.

And yesterday, I had a chat with one of the ladies who works for our development's Feral Cat Spay & Neutering Program.She had been driving by and stopped to verify that we owned a black/white cat that we got through the program a few years ago. Told her yes. Well, it seems my good boy, Patch, has been recently visiting a house almost at the end of my block where a CAT HOARDER happens to live. The woman told me this poor man takes care of about 30 ferals who visit him regularly. He feeds them daily and leaves a back door open during the day so that the cats come and go as they please. At night he closes the door and cats can't go in or out. He refuses to give any of them up to be neutered, or for adoption. So, the cats multiply like crazy and there are kittens, upon kittens living in the area right now. She told me that the S&N program can't do anything about this situation.

I could hardly believe what she told me next. My PATCH, it seems, patrols there ... and chases the kittens out of the street to protect them from the cars that drive past. I was flabbergasted when the woman told me this. She told that she, and her partner, have been watching Patch for the last week or so because they are going to be putting Havaheart traps out on July 28th to trap ferals in the area. I have only seen a few in the area recently. When she was driving by, the reason she stopped was that she saw Patch with me. After, our chat she told me they will keep any eye out for him ... just in case. I told her he doesn't go to strangers, and I doubted he would go near any kind of trap. I also told her Patch was very easy to identify. He has a black Christmas Tree down the center of his face! lol

Cats! Ya gotta love 'em!

Jane



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plantmanager
Jul 17, 2017 1:39 PM CST
Patch certainly has unique markings, Jane! I'm grateful for everyone who takes in ferals and helps them.
My youngest is a vet and she participates in a feral cat clinic monthly where they spay and neuter all cats brought in and then they are released back where they came from. They do several hundred cats once a month.
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Name: Annie
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LysmachiaMoon
Jul 18, 2017 11:15 AM CST
Hurray for Patch! What a great cat! and all praise and thanksgivings to everybody who participates in any way in making the world a better more humane place. I also encouage anyone who tells me "I can't have a pet" to instead donate $$$ to the ASPCA, their local shelters, or the Human Society. It all helps.
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Name: Jane
Tobyhanna, PA (Zone 5a)
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PAgirl63
Jul 19, 2017 11:20 AM CST
Annie,
You mentioned donating money to ASPCA etc. My husband's Aunt recently passed away, and in lieu of flowers, we donated to Bide-A-Wee. It was something her family requested instead. Such a good cause ....
Jane
Name: Annie
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LysmachiaMoon
Jul 20, 2017 10:05 AM CST
Thats a wonderful idea, Jane. More people should do it. Whenever any of our pets pass away, I try to make a donation to our local shelter in their memory. We're pretty proud of Waynesboro PA's Antietam Humane Society shelter...they are trying very very hard to be a "no kill" shelter and thankfully almost NO animals meet that fate there. They even sometimes rescue pets from kill-type shelters to give them a chance. AND they are in the process of fund raising for a big new facility that will include a special home for "unadoptable" pets. So I'm always happy to give them donations.


PS: I just saw your little tag line "The garden is my happy place." Mine too! Do you by any chance watch 'Bob's Burgers"? *hums the tune "I think I've found my happy place...*
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Name: Jane
Tobyhanna, PA (Zone 5a)
The "Garden" is my Happy Place!
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PAgirl63
Jul 20, 2017 4:18 PM CST
Annie,
Bob's Burgers? Never heard of it. Tell me about it.
Jane
Name: Annie
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LysmachiaMoon
Jul 21, 2017 9:07 AM CST
It's a funky little cartoon program on Adult Swim network. Very sweet, very funny. Bob Belcher runs a hamburger restaurant and, in one episode, longs to have a plot in the community garden. The episode segues into an elaborate musical number where he sings this song "I think I've found my happy place" while working in his little garden. Go to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

I don't like Adult Swim network, but this one program is a gem.
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Name: Jane
Tobyhanna, PA (Zone 5a)
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PAgirl63
Jul 22, 2017 5:16 PM CST
Annie,

I've watched some stuff on the Adult Swim Network, but didn't know about ... Bob.
I watched the video you posted from YouTube. Check out my hat ... It's just like Bob's. lol
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Name: pam
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gardenglory
Jul 22, 2017 6:07 PM CST
We trap and take cats to get fixed thru a program called catnip, thru the university of fl. Yesterday I heard some really exciting news, well to me. From now on, all cats brought into the ASPCA will be nipped and released..not killed Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Some people are pretty ticked off, but im not one of theml. The cut the tip off an ear to show they have been nipped already.
Name: Jane
Tobyhanna, PA (Zone 5a)
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PAgirl63
Jul 23, 2017 7:05 AM CST
gardenglory,

I got my Patch through our Feral Cat program. He was neutered and had his ear tip clipped. He was returned to me as we actually adopted him. Your ASPCA in FL becoming a NO kill shelter that will nip and release is great news, but are they going to PUSH for adoptions as well? I know it's basically neuter, clip, and release, but it's still a hard life for ferals when they are returned back. I wish we could rescue them all and give them good homes. Sad
Name: pam
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gardenglory
Jul 23, 2017 8:08 AM CST
Im not sure they push for adopting feral cats. They have cats just about everywhere you go for adoption, but not sure feral. Ive kept feral tiny kittens, and they turned out feral. They told me it takes until the third generation to breed it out. I do have some that come to eat that will let me pick them up, but thats about it. That took about three years. They are not nipping domesticated cats and just putting them out, or they better not be.
Name: Archivesgirl
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Archivesgirl
Jul 23, 2017 8:46 AM CST
I have participated in TNR (trap, neuter, release) for years but no more. There is a big misconception about Ferals. Many will say that Ferals are unadoptable but that is not true. You have to be able to tell the difference between true Ferals (who usually only come out at night and are rarely seen) and strays, hard strays, throw-aways, and pets who might appear to be feral. I wrote a white paper for a group (Snip Tuck, here in Maryland) to be presented to the state legislature several years ago. All of the stakeholders, i.e., Humane Societies, Animal Control, Vets, Veterinary Associations etc. have to work locally to come up with solutions to the burgeoning population. I believe in humane euthanasia rather than see cats suffering in the elements and facing predators. Cats outside are at risk of many deadly infections and diseases. It is a very hard life for them. I've seen it all. BTW, I brought 5 "ferals" with me when I moved across state. They became strictly indoor cats (not a peep out of them to ever go outside again) and lived out their lives in comfort with love (all lived into their teens and one is still alive). Now I have the one who is still alive (Roma, daughter of Roamin' who roamed the former neighborhood) and six others -three brothers born on my back deck from a mother cat who I had never seen before, a beautiful young male who walked up to my back door to get something to eat (and didn't belong to anyone), a male stray who I TNR'd and then adopted and, a female kitten from PetsMart who had been rescued from Assateague Island, MD. Actually, I wasn't planning on adopting the kitten from PetsMart. I simply went to pet some of their adoptees on my regular shopping trip and I didn't know my sister was following me down the aisle. Anyway, a tiny gray female kitten poked her paw out and caught my sister's sweater. Then she poked the other paw out and grabbed onto my sister. Well, that's all she wrote because, unlike me, my sister couldn't leave her behind so she became Assateague Abby and is the 7th cat in our household. Well, this is long enough. Gayle
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Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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gardenglory
Jul 23, 2017 9:18 AM CST
Humane euthanasia is the key there. I actually agree with that Im afraid I can hardly go in petsmart any more, I certainly cant go by the cats. We have brought home a few too many. I wont go on the days the dogs are there. I have 6 already, and I just want to help them all.
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Momma Kitty and Black Kitty. This picture was taken in july 2012, and they are still coming every night, altho at separate times now. Im sure the black kitty is a feral kitten I brought home from behind sonnys, got fixed, it stayed inside, but the minute it hit the door, it was gone. Stayed gone about three years.
They dont mind sharing.
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