Daylilies forum: Pretty little seedling

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 17, 2017 5:14 PM CST
This is a gift from SpringColor and is an unnamed seedling. (Thanks, Julia, it is quite lovely!) I like to assign my unnamed plants to what I term a 'closest to' cultivar for the purpose of tracking them in my personal list. This allows me to track where the plant is, when it blooms, and other info for my own use. I do NOT upload photos into the database (recognizing that they really are NOIDs), but now can upload photos into my list with the new features. I also make a note in the comment section that the plant is in fact a NOID but is similar to whatever cultivar I end up choosing. I hope you daylily folks don't find this sacrilegious (ha ha). In any event, I get rather stuck on the color choices - how would you describe this seedling so I can find a similar named variety? I'm a bit clueless about the various daylily terms. Thanks so much.
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Name: Elena
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Jul 17, 2017 5:28 PM CST
Good question! I have a seedling that's a similar color & just today was trying to define it. It's some kind of purple. I think I just put medium purple but I know that isn't right. I'm not very good at matching colors so I'd appreciate it too if someone can name that color!
Name: Diana
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ShakespearesGarden
Jul 17, 2017 11:59 PM CST
That makes another of us that can't figure out specific color names...
For a NOID search I tried pink, rose, lavender, mauve...I have a few names left to try
Purple- didn't even think of the simple color name
Lilac
Violet
Fuchsia

Maybe one of those will help. I've been studying pictures to try to learn whatever constitutes "rose mauve" and how that varies on everyone's photos of the blooms! Sighing!
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Name: Mayo
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Mayo62
Jul 18, 2017 2:46 AM CST
isn't there a color-code chart somewhere..?
I (vaguely) remember seeing it somewhere online.. the AHS website?

I have the same problem as you: how to call the colors of my seedlings Confused
I take a lot of photo's, but my camera and laptop almost never show the same colors as the real flowers Thumbs down
It would be very helpful (for me at least) if I could write down the actual color..

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 18, 2017 8:40 AM CST
I am not able to easily find explanations for the simplest things - is this seedling considered a single? What is that line down the middle called? What about the slightly ruffled edge? Does it have a yellow eye or green eye, or is there some other way to describe the center? When I went to the AHS website I had no clue what all the terms referred to so simply searched for a purple daylily, which came up with over 1,000 pages of choices. I'd rather not slog through all of those, kind of makes my head spin (I did go through 20 or so and was still in the A's) I won't even touch the ploidy issue, absolutely no clue what that refers to.

In response to the color question, this plant to my eye is a soft wine purple, but that does not seem to be a choice so I just stuck with purple.

Again, thanks for your help, this little guy just needs a spot in my list so I can track him.
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Name: Jill
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Jillz
Jul 18, 2017 8:51 AM CST
I am hopeless with colors but it looks purple to me with yellowish green throat.
It is a single with lightish midribs ( those lines in the middle of the petals)

That's all I've got for you but I am sure experts could do much better!
Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 18, 2017 9:01 AM CST
Thanks, Jill. I now have a couple terms under my belt - single, throat, midribs. See, I know nothing... The whole bloom time is another mystery to me - who determines if they are early, extra early, mid season, late - wouldn't that depend on your particular growing region? This guy is blooming now mid to late July - where does that fit in? My Stella is also blooming now, I suppose I can look to see how she is termed. I'm just trying to narrow my search to something a bit manageable.
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Name: Jill
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Jillz
Jul 18, 2017 9:10 AM CST
Deb,
The bloom season depends on your locale. Take your peak for all your daylilies as midseason. If a daylily blooms a couple weeks earlier or later then adjust the bloom season for that plant accordingly but use Your season as the benchmark.
Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 18, 2017 9:53 AM CST
Thanks Jill. I did check both Stella and Hyperion, both pretty standard varieties. Stella is listed as early mid and Hyperion as mid - yet for me Hyperion is a bit earlier than Stella, although they do overlap (both blooming now). Shrug. Rather meaningless to me, but it would be helpful to narrow the search parameters.
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Name: Jill
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Jillz
Jul 18, 2017 10:10 AM CST
If I understand you correctly, you are looking for a registered plant that is similar to you seedling. You might want to check out



It is not perfect but close(ish). Your seedling has a small watermark (the lighter purple around the throat) that is missing in CS, though.
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Name: Mayo
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Mayo62
Jul 18, 2017 10:57 AM CST
hi Deb,

if you go the the website of the AHS you can find the answer to some of your questions Thumbs up

In the FAQ you can find all this info:

What are the flower colors of daylilies?
What color patterns are found in daylily flowers?
What flower forms are found in daylilies?
What other characteristics are used in describing daylilies?
What are the foliage traits of daylilies?
What is the difference between diploid and tetraploid daylilies?

This is the link: http://www.daylilies.org/AHSFA...


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Altheabyanothername
Jul 20, 2017 5:36 PM CST
Deb-- When I saw that seedling, I said Francis of Assisi.



Maybe this helps.

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 20, 2017 8:20 PM CST
Thanks - these give me good spots to start. When I find a likely candidate, sometimes looking at the parent and/or child entries will lead me to better matches. Assisi is close but lacks the white midrib, and Scintillation needs more ruffling on the edge. Either one would work for a 'closest to' though and then I would note it's a NOID seedling and slightly change the name (in my mind and personal comments) to suit my fancy.
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