Plant ID forum: Unknown plant (Rudbeckia?)

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Minneapolis - Saint Paul
Jul 20, 2017 12:58 PM CST
Hi there - I found this plant in a yard in Minneapolis and I'm trying to find out what it really is. There were no flowers but it makes me think on Rudbbeckia. Any better suggestion? Thanks.
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Name: Lin
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Jul 20, 2017 1:13 PM CST
It reminds me of Rudbeckia too:

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