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Kmbrsmf
Jul 23, 2017 1:52 PM CST
Do you know what any of these are.? I know they are weeds but they are beautiful and attracting a lot of dragonflies. I want to make an essence but need to know what they are.
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DaisyI
Jul 23, 2017 1:55 PM CST
Welcome!

Flower photos are a good start for an ID but we need some photos of the leaves and stems also.

Did you plant these? Or did they volunteer?
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sooby
Jul 23, 2017 3:16 PM CST
Welcome!

The top one is goldenrod, are the next two the same? Looks like wild carrot aka Queen Anne's Lace.
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Jul 23, 2017 4:24 PM CST
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Jul 23, 2017 8:23 PM CST

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Queen Anne's Lace (Daucus carota)
is a possibility, without seeing the leaves though it can't be confirmed.
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jul 23, 2017 9:00 PM CST
I agree with the first ID of Goldenrod.

But I think you are being very cavalier by IDing the second plant as Queen Anne's Lace without seeing the rest of the plant. The other choice is Poison Hemlock. If kmbrsmf agrees to your ID and eats some of it, are you willing to take that responsibily?

I'm not and will wait for more photos. Stems and leaves, please.
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sooby
Jul 24, 2017 3:27 AM CST
DaisyI said:I agree with the first ID of Goldenrod.

But I think you are being very cavalier by IDing the second plant as Queen Anne's Lace without seeing the rest of the plant. The other choice is Poison Hemlock. If kmbrsmf agrees to your ID and eats some of it, are you willing to take that responsibily?

I'm not and will wait for more photos. Stems and leaves, please.


There actually are some leaves in the middle picture at the bottom but the leaves are not the most distinguishing feature between the two. Note that the inflorescence is flat-topped, not rounded like poison hemlock, and there are clearly pronged bracts underneath the inflorescence, which poison hemlock does not have. This link may help:

http://www.ravensroots.com/blo...

I also did not give a positive ID, I said it looks like Queen Anne's Lace and asked if the two pictures were the same plant but you are right, I should have warned that there are hazardous plants that look similar.

I do agree that if the OP isn't confident in telling the difference anything resembling that is definitely best avoided regardless (although they flower at different times also - QAL is flowering all over the place here right now and the OP is in Pennslvania so not that far).

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Jai_Ganesha
Jul 24, 2017 3:48 AM CST
DaisyI said:I agree with the first ID of Goldenrod.

But I think you are being very cavalier by IDing the second plant as Queen Anne's Lace without seeing the rest of the plant. The other choice is Poison Hemlock. If kmbrsmf agrees to your ID and eats some of it, are you willing to take that responsibily?

I'm not and will wait for more photos. Stems and leaves, please.


Yeah, you should NEVER taste Queen Anne's lace (wild carrot) specifically for this reason. You have to be 100% sure you're not committing suicide.
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sooby
Jul 24, 2017 5:16 AM CST
Jai_Ganesha said:

Yeah, you should NEVER taste Queen Anne's lace (wild carrot) specifically for this reason. You have to be 100% sure you're not committing suicide.


Absolutely, there are several other similar plants in addition to poison hemlock as well. The forked bracts (and I think also the typical "bird's nest" finished flowers because I think the hemlock seed heads are flat?) distinguish the ID plant from poison hemlock but even wild carrot/Queen Anne's Lace can cause dermatitis when handled. I guess that's something that I/we should try and remember to do when presented with umbelliferous plants, don't just identify the ID plant but warn about toxic lookalikes.

I was thinking I'd go out and photograph the distinguishing features of wild carrot/QAL but it's pouring with rain - again. There are pictures in the NGA database though, this one shows the forked bracts that are a characteristic and were clear on the ID plants second picture:



Edited to add further note about toxicity of Queen Anne's Lace/wild carrot:
https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/pl...
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