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Jul 28, 2017 8:52 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
i have had Podophyllums for approx 15 years and have not really wanted to hybridize them even tho most of the ones i have are hybrids. i have P. delavayi a specie plus the synonym Veitchii which actually acts & looks a little different & P. spotty dotty a hybrid & P. kaledoscope a hybrid which all look sorta similar
and i decided to cross them this year even tho this is the first year delavayi did not flower i think because i moved it and it is still recovering. P. delavayi flowers at the y junction of the 2 stems
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P. kaleidoscope flowers at the junction of one of the leaves
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P. spotty dotty flowers approx 2/3 of the way up one of the stems
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i crossed spotty dotty & kaleidoscope and half (approx 5) of the spotty dottys grew an extra stem at the flower junction after pollination making it look like delavayi its mother plant
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i have never heard of this and searching can not find anything about it
the brits have been hybridizing Podophyllums for more then a decade and i have also ask them if they are familiar with this trait of spotty dotty, and they said "never had seen it"
has someone here seen this ?
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Jul 29, 2017 11:16 AM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Sorry I have no information for you but the guy up at keeping it green nursery is doing some amazing work with these plants. You might E-mail him see if he will share any info. The open days at the nursery is finished after the end of June so he might have time to respond. Dan Hinkley is another you might try E-mailing, might get a response.
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Dec 9, 2017 7:59 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
update
well all those seed i thought i would have
became a total of 5 seed from spotty dotty Sad
will update again when/if they sprout next spring hopefully
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Dec 10, 2017 1:22 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Hydrangeas Photo Contest Winner 2018 Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Forum moderator
Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan
Hoping for success.
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Dec 10, 2017 1:55 PM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
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well 5 is better than zero. Let us know in the spring what comes up.
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Feb 2, 2018 6:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
looks like one of the 5 seed is going to happen Smiling
Thumb of 2018-02-03/Strever/d8991a
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Feb 5, 2018 11:19 AM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
One is also better than zero! I can't wait to see what they look like when bigger.
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Feb 5, 2018 11:36 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
so am i Mary
like i mentioned earlier the Brits have been doing podophyllums for years and they said they never had success on this particular cross Smiling
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Oct 4, 2018 4:28 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
update
the sgl did not make it, not sure why
and both Dan Hinkley and the owner of Green Nursery had not heard of the extra leaf
so i did it again this spring and it looks like i will have a lot of seed this time
i already have some seed larger then last time and from P. kaleidoscope this time
and there are more yet to come
the seed pods are larger this year also
Thumb of 2018-10-04/Strever/63691c
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Oct 4, 2018 6:38 PM CST
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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Hope you have better luck this time around.
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Oct 5, 2018 9:51 AM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
Well drat about the seedling loss. This sounds good for next year with more and stronger seeds.Did the seedling wither away? get eaten by bugs? Died of smoke inhalation from the fires? Stolen by tiny Martians to be used as a tent?
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Oct 6, 2018 12:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
i think it was the tiny underground martians that snuck into the soil of that pot Smiling
i will update as more seedpods produce


Pistil said:Well drat about the seedling loss. This sounds good for next year with more and stronger seeds.Did the seedling wither away? get eaten by bugs? Died of smoke inhalation from the fires? Stolen by tiny Martians to be used as a tent?
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Oct 9, 2018 12:24 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
as i said i have more large seed pods this year
so i decided to take picts this time
here is a Kaleidoscope seed pod that was pollinated with spotty dotty
Thumb of 2018-10-09/Strever/aff6d8
and the seed are in a goop that is really difficult to remove
Thumb of 2018-10-09/Strever/7dd8d8
but after a few minutes work 6 more seed of the Kaleidoscope/SpottyDotty
Thumb of 2018-10-09/Strever/4c8816
then i got a cpl of the Spotty Dotty seed pods pollinated with Kaleidoscope
as you can see the goop around the seed is not so gooey
Thumb of 2018-10-09/Strever/baf104
Thumb of 2018-10-09/Strever/2acab8

i have decided to try the seed in artificial this time hoping Smiling
SpottyDotty/Kaleidoscope seed
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Kaleidoscope/SpottyDotty seed
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i left 2 seed pods of each to see what happens leaving them longer on the plants
will update when i take them
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Oct 9, 2018 9:21 PM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
Keep us updated.
Do you think you could upload the pod/fruit and seed photos to the Podophyllum entry in the Plant Database?
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Oct 12, 2018 12:42 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
Mary
i don't know why i didn't
i guess i'm getting forgetful in my old age :)
will do so

Pistil said:Keep us updated.
Do you think you could upload the pod/fruit and seed photos to the Podophyllum entry in the Plant Database?
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Jan 30, 2019 5:12 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
the seed are starting to come up
and the Spotty Dotty pollinated with Kaleidoscope henceforth called (SDK) are coming up first


the Kaleidoscope seed pollinated with SpottyDotty henceforth (KSD) are having some fungus problems but are trying to come up
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Jan 30, 2019 6:31 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Hydrangeas Photo Contest Winner 2018 Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Forum moderator
Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan
How exciting! Hurray!
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Jan 30, 2019 8:29 PM CST
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
Aquarium Plants Bookworm Snakes Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Heucheras
Echinacea Hellebores Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Hostas Region: New Jersey
It looks like you have quite a few going, hope they do well for you.
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Jan 31, 2019 1:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
you are correct Bob
i hope i can get a cpl up of each and acting like plants this time
third time is the charm
correct ? Smiling
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Feb 1, 2019 1:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
today the KSD seed are doing better after a light homemade fungicide spray
Thumb of 2019-02-01/Strever/c0b036
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