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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Sep 24, 2017 3:08 PM CST
Are many of the Siloams available?
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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Sep 25, 2017 3:10 AM CST
Yes, quite a few but mainly older basic ones like Siloam Ury Winniford and Siloam Fairy Tale (which I an planning on getting when I move house and have more land).

I have seen Siloam New Toy available on a couple of sites.

Feeling guilty now about being upset about the substitute plant, though, I have since looked it up on his website and it is €105- Blinking Buddy's Angel Baby was about €15-!!

Will be covering scapes with organza bags, siting sticky traps, even thinking of trying diatomaceous earth to try and counter the gall midge!

I never had a plant that was that expensive!

If I can keep the gall midge off long enough to get blooms I will cross it with my older Lambertson's (I have Jenny Butterfield, Blue Jay Way, Intricate Eyes and Eyes A Blue). I could also cross it with Lake Effect, Mystical Rainbow or Threshold of a Dream and I forgot I added Got Milk earlier this year.

Ann Hathaway's Garden and Blue Spring should be on their way too so plenty of options.

I just wish his communication was a bit better. It is a bit nerve-wracking when you use someone for the first time in another country and they don't reply to emails.

Edited--also have Blue -Eyed Butterfly--forgot about that one!

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Name: Nikki
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Sep 25, 2017 3:48 AM CST


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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Sep 25, 2017 7:21 AM CST
That is an expensive one and a nice substitution, for sure. It is a beautiful daylily. You have plenty of options for crosses, and very good ones, too. I hope you can prevent the gall midge. Were they bad last year?

I find a lack of communication nerve wracking, as well. Oftentimes, just a few words is all it takes to keep customers happy.

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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Sep 25, 2017 8:04 AM CST
Last summer (2016) was the first time I had the gall midge and they were bad and the situation was compounded by the fact that I didn't know what it was so didn't deal with it as timely or ruthlessly as necessary .

Of course this meant that this year quite a lot emerged from the soil and we had a warm May. However, I was a lot more vigilant this year and hopefully caught most if not all of affected buds and killed the larvae so I am hoping that next year will be better.

I have to admit that I did a small amount of spraying this year but did it in the cat run to protect the bees (a huge advantage to having plants in containers) and kept the cats out for several days as a precaution.

I really don't like spraying and feel bad about doing it but it did seem to help (I used the one recommended on the RHS/AHS on the gall midge research programme that they did).

This year though it seemed to be purples targeted, not yellows, and that was confirmed by growers in the south of England.

I agree with your comment about communication, the way I see it it only takes a few seconds to reassure a customer and prevents a lot of worry and makes it more likely that they will use you again.

It seems though that Ben Lee is no longer available in Britain. The place that I thought had it hasn't actually updated their website since 2011.

Although it would be strange if they no longer sold this one as they hold the National Collection of small and mini daylilies (only older/heirloom varieties though and nothing later than a 2002 intro which is described as "new and exciting" in this year's catalogue---I despair!)
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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Sep 25, 2017 10:39 AM CST
You may find that you don't have such a bad infestation of gall midge in the 2018 daylily season after your vigilance and treatment this season, especially if your neighbours don't have it in their garden to reinfect your plants.

It seems that the import ban is really affecting your ability to acquire plants. I wonder if that is making sellers in England scale back on selling daylilies.
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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Sep 27, 2017 7:13 AM CST
@touchofsky

Hi Valerie,

It isn't so much a case of scaling back, more that they never scaled up in the first place.

They are all (and we are talking about less than a dozen in all of Britain and all in the south) just hobby nurseries here as there just isn't a market for daylilies due to their unpredictability in Britain so I fully understand their reluctance to invest in expensive new varieties that may never flower in our climate.

Or they might spent hundreds of pounds on a daylily with the latest pattern, feature etc. .and it decides it wants to be a basic, gold self daylily or refuses to open at all.

There are one or two people hybridising here but they are all breeding for spiders/UF (as they open better here) which just aren't my thing. Previously if you knew who to ask it was possible to get hold of something a bit different but it has never been easy.

However, thanks to Mayo I have managed to get some new stuff from Europe and my order has just arrived from Belgium and is soaking now. Hurray! Hurray!

Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Oct 2, 2017 7:57 AM CST
Whilst I was messing with my phone (by messing I mean trying to remember how to get it to work :rofl:) I came across my picture of Honky Tonk Blues showing the eye in close up.

Thought I would post it in case anyone wanted a daylily to look at during autumn.



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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Oct 2, 2017 1:30 PM CST
That is very pretty. Is that fairly typical of the bloom where you are?
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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Oct 2, 2017 2:26 PM CST
@touchofsky

Hi Valerie,

Yes, most of the flowers were that shade, I just had a couple later on that were more of a dusky raspberry shade and I have a picture of that somewhere which I will post when I find it.

I have some Honky Tonk Blues x Star Child seeds in the fridge with your name on! Hoping it will be a nice cross for both of us, they both have Little Sensation in their backgrounds so we might get a nice blue eye if we are lucky.

If I remember correctly, Little Fat Cat is on both sides too which is a lovely plant so I hope that we both get something that is both pretty and hardy, hopefully with Little Fat Cat's gorgeous diamond dusting.

Did you get your daffys in? I just ordered some whites with pink split corona and I have some new blue parrot tulips for this year, I prefer to put new parrot ones in each year as they are never as good here in subsequent years.

I also saw some nice snapdragon seeds which I just had to get too, double whites with soft pink throats but I'll need to get a heat mat before starting them in spring as they need a higher temperature to germinate.

Will look for the other pic of Honky Tonk Blues for you.

Edited to add picture.

This was how the later flowers sometimes looked, this one was on a sunny day


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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Oct 2, 2017 8:16 PM CST
Thank You! Nikki, I am looking forward to that cross! I love both parents. Thanks for the new picture. Honky Tonk Blues is a pretty one.

I planted the daffodils I had purchased, but will buy more this week. I am buying large bags of yellow 'Dutch Master' and some mixed daffodils for naturalizing along the laneway, but plan on going to a nursery and picking out some fancier named varieties for around the house. Last year I planted 'Orangery', a split corona daffodil. The ones with pink coronas must be lovely. Maybe I will see some of those on my shopping trip. I have several cultivars with pink cups. They are so beautiful.

I bought some dark purple parrot tulips last week, but haven't planted those yet. I keep the tulips close to the house because the deer tend not to come close to the house. Thank goodness the deer don't like daffodils!

I had great success with snapdragons in my terracotta planters on my verandah. They were lovely soft shades, and some were like the seeds you bought. I bought them as little plants in the spring, I didn't grow them from seed. They coped the best of all my annuals with the cool, damp summer we had this year.
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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Oct 3, 2017 3:16 AM CST
@touchofsky

Hi Valerie,

The purple parrot tulips are lovely, I like the apricot ones too, really pretty.. but the blue are my favourite, a really beautiful steel mauve blue shade, if only I could get a daylily that colour!

I usually buy snapdragons as plants too as they can be a bit tricky from seed but they are generally sold in mixed colour packs here and mainly reds and yellows.

However, to get back to the theme of purple minis:

I found a better picture of "Dark Sprite", there are some seeds for you in the fridge with this little one as pod parent but as it is unregistered I though you would want to see it. Black/red purple mini.very vigorous here.

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I strongly suspect that it is actually "Black Knight" but I can't be certain.

And this is the seedling that is either Stargate Portal or Smoke Scream, difficult to see on the pictures but in real life it has a darker eye. It isn't a mini or small flower though. You will be getting some seeds with this as a parent. This is the one I am thinking of crossing with Barn Owl. I confirmed it was a dip. by this year's crosses.


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Sorry this is such a bad photo, as you can see from the yellow tone to the leaves it has actually come out much warmer in colour than it is in real life. This was the first year of flowering for me and it was a lovely saturated rich maroon purple with cooler bluish-purple eye zone. I think it might be a nice one to cross with Lav. Blue Baby in future.

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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Oct 4, 2017 6:50 AM CST
I am going to look for the blue parrot tulips. I could put them alongside the dark purple ones. I think tht would look quite dramatic.

Thank you for setting aside seeds from these crosses for me. I appreciate it very much Thank You!

How big is the flower on Dark Sprite?

I am slowly harvesting my seed pods. I still have about 20 or so to go.
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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Oct 4, 2017 7:10 AM CST
@touchofsky,

Hi Valerie,

The flower on Dark Sprite is about 2.5-3" here but I grow everything in pots so might be different elsewhere. Definitely a little one though. It has a lovely velvety metallic sheen here and stands up to heavy rain very well. Colour is to die for! The photos really do not do it justice. I always have to touch the flowers as I keep thinking that they will feel like velvet! Hilarious!

There are some seeds in the fridge for you from Dark Sprite x Baby Blues and also a couple of seeds from Dark Sprite x unknown mini (sorry, there weren't many in the pod).

I also have some seeds for you from Aquamarine x sdlg in the last picture (garden name Lawrence's Legacy) and some other crosses. I can send you a list or would you like it to be a surprise?

Will send you a tree mail later.
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Oct 4, 2017 8:05 AM CST
Dark Sprite sounds lovely. I like velvety purples and I agree that they are hard to photograph. I have a miniature dark purple called Welchkins and it is very hard to get the colour right in a photo.

Your crosses sound great!

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Name: Avedon
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Avedon
Feb 11, 2018 7:22 PM CST
Bumping up this thread because--I think we need an emoji for "Drumroll Please" --- in the morning an order goes out that includes the following small purple type DLS. These will be coming from O'Bannon Springs Daylilies.

Morrie Otte, Punk, Siloam Art Work and Siloam Tiny Tim.
Name: Tina
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beenthere
Feb 11, 2018 7:41 PM CST
You are going to love Punk! And that's who I got mine from.
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Feb 11, 2018 9:08 PM CST
Hurray! I can't wait to see photos, hopefully this season!
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Legalily
Feb 11, 2018 10:21 PM CST
Some of my purple minis. Some I'm still waiting for blooms and some come in spring
Not sure which are favorites yet










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Name: Susie
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lovegrillin
Feb 14, 2018 10:30 AM CST
Purple De Oro to date is my favorite purple mini. Blooms like crazy here for me.

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