Plant ID forum: Overgrown unidentified shrubs in Virginia

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NorthernNeck
Jul 31, 2017 7:28 PM CST
Hi,

I am looking for some help identifying this shrub with thorns or spines along the stems. The shrub is woody with glossy leaves. They were planted around a pecan allee at least 40+ years ago and are over 20 feet now and unwieldy to say the least. I am considering removing the shrubs to clean up under the trees, but if these are considered desirable plants, I will leave them as an understory/windbreaker for the trees. Thank you for the advice!
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Name: John
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ViburnumValley
Jul 31, 2017 8:41 PM CST
How about clipping off some samples of the plant you wish to have identified?

Take them to a photo location like a tabletop, driveway, sidewalk, or some such where you can take clear pictures of the various plant parts:

**top and underside of leaves
**leaves and arrangement along stems/branches
**any flowers or fruit these plants may form
**stems/branches/trunk

Nowhere do I see images of the whole plants, either. Step away from the closeups, and show these plants in their entirety and the situation in which they are growing. I can see so many other plants in the pictures (Ivy, Wisteria, etc.) that I want to be sure of what you are asking to have identified.

Barring any further information, there seems to be something Elaeagnus-like about these pictures....
John
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NorthernNeck
Jul 31, 2017 8:44 PM CST
Thank you for your response. I apologize for the poor quality images as it was getting dark with an old phone. I will post some other pictures tomorrow. The shrub in question has the glossy leaves in the center of the bottom photograph, surrounded by Wisteria. I have not seen it flower or fruit, but your suggestion prompted me to look into silverthorn and thorny olive, which look very similar in shape.
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crawgarden
Jul 31, 2017 9:10 PM CST
Possibly buckthorn
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