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Indio_s_Mom
Aug 5, 2017 5:53 PM CST
It is crucial I identify this plant ASAP as the neighbors have complained and the village has ticketed me to cut it down. It provides so many seeds for the birds in the Fall and Winter- it draws many species of birds. The neighbors prefer a traditional groomed lawn. I want to make the case that this plant is indigenous and crucial to habitat conservation and to the feeding of migratory birds. Please helps me as I'm supposed to cut it down or face costly fines. Thank You In Advance!

CHARACTERISTICS: Grows quite tall, maybe 10' or so. After the leaves drop the stem remains tall & sturdy tolerating birds landing and feeding off of the plant's seeds. Grows back yearly on its own & spreads with abundance. Grows thick with multiple plants packed rather tightly in an area. [Forgive my lack of proper terminology~ am new to this].
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Esperanza
Aug 5, 2017 5:57 PM CST
It looks like rag weed to me. If it is giant ragweed it makes a lot of people suffer from allergies when the pollen is floating around and seeds like crazy. It is not worth a fine and if continued to let seed you will eventually regret leaving it. I know this from experience. A load of gravel came in with some seed I guess. I did not take care of it the first year and now it is an absolute nightmare trying to get rid of it.
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sooby
Aug 5, 2017 6:09 PM CST
Welcome!

What are the flowers like? Could it be Tithonia diversifolia?



Winthrop Harbor, IL 60096
Indio_s_Mom
Aug 5, 2017 6:10 PM CST
Esperanza said: It looks like rag weed to me.


Yes you're correct I looked up other pictures of it it is definitely rag weed the giant type

I cannot determine whether it is considered invasive or if it is indigenous- do you know?

I know that it contributes to allergies so it isn't a favorite amongst humans but the birds go crazy on it and it's a source of abundant seeds ... would so hate to have to eliminate it

Ty in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer
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greene
Aug 5, 2017 6:22 PM CST
I don't know what your plant is but I cannot match it to any of the plants listed as invasive or exotic invasive.

Ragweed was suggested. Hmmm...maybe Giant Ragweed? Which would make it a wildflower, also considered a weed by many people. If your plant matched the Giant Ragweed, it would be a source of allergies to people/neighbors who suffer from seasonal pollen allergies.
http://www.illinoiswildflowers...

Since you also do not know what the plant is, I ask, is it worth going to court over this? You opted to reside in the village, therefore, you must abide by the rules/laws/ordinances of the village. You could dig up your plant and move away to another location, but, is it worth it?

Good luck. Crossing Fingers!

Edited to add:
If it is the Giant Ragweed, sorry to say, it is listed on the Illinois noxious weed list and therefore most likely must be removed from your property.
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Winthrop Harbor, IL 60096
Indio_s_Mom
Aug 5, 2017 6:28 PM CST
Yes it is definitely Rag Weed of the Giant type

I understand that to the human population this plant is a nuisance and considered a weed in need of eradication

Are there any folks out there who are fans of Rag Weed precisely bc it's such a wonderful support to birds? It's delightful to watch all the birds swarming in and harvesting the plants for seeds- I recommend it for bird watchers

Surely an argument could be made for habitat conservation ... anybody?
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greene
Aug 5, 2017 6:37 PM CST
Nope, not me. Not a fan. Too many people lose days from work and school because of allergies and doctor appointments. If you lived way out in the boondocks you would be free to grow anything you desire, but living within a community, you must abide by the rules of the community.

There are tons of things you can plant instead that would make the birds, bees, butterflies, and humans happy. Please consider more positive options. Thumbs up
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sooby
Aug 5, 2017 6:42 PM CST
According to this article giant ragweed seeds are not easily digestible and probably spread by birds and animals. That would imply to me that the birds are not really getting any nutrition from them if they are still viable after passing through the digestive tract.

http://www.illinoiswildflowers...

It also says "This huge plant is probably an allergy sufferer's worst nightmare."
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Esperanza
Aug 5, 2017 6:43 PM CST
My suggestion would be to plant some native shrubs and grasses that are wild life friendly in your area to replace the rag weed. Same benefits...happy neighbors.....no ticket.....no sneezing
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Weedwhacker
Aug 5, 2017 7:04 PM CST
greene said:Nope, not me. Not a fan. Too many people lose days from work and school because of allergies and doctor appointments. If you lived way out in the boondocks you would be free to grow anything you desire, but living within a community, you must abide by the rules of the community.

There are tons of things you can plant instead that would make the birds, bees, butterflies, and humans happy. Please consider more positive options. Thumbs up


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DaisyI
Aug 5, 2017 7:06 PM CST
Me neither. There are so many better choices.
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Winthrop Harbor, IL 60096
Indio_s_Mom
Aug 5, 2017 7:08 PM CST
Got it

Ty everybody
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Bonehead
Aug 5, 2017 7:52 PM CST
Warm welcome from the Pacific Northwest. I think you are on the right track to seek out native plants that are beneficial to your local birds and small mammals. Most communities have a native plant society (do an internet search), which will typically have plant lists, planting plans, and other useful information. My guess is you can replace this with something less adversarial and more beneficial to your region. Good luck.
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Indio_s_Mom
Aug 5, 2017 8:08 PM CST
Ty Bonehead for the warm welcome!

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