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Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
Aug 11, 2017 8:26 AM CST
I don't know about everyone but I have a "Wanted" list of peonies that I moon over. I even have this list on Pinterest so I have other people's pictures there to remind me of the beauties that I don't have yet! A lot of these aren't expensive peonies at all, just not as popular so not as many growers carry them so not in rotation as often as the majority. I managed to snare a few this fall, YAYYAYYAYYAYYAY! Doesn't mean my "Wanted" list shrunk as typically for every one I find two or three new ones take their place....
Audrey is the first that's making it from my "Wanted" list to my garden this year. It's a Saunder's peony and I'm just a sucker for his creations--pretty much anytime I see one that I don't have I snatch it up. Saw pictures of it a few years ago and it IMMEDIATELY went on the list and has been there ever since (some come and go) I've never seen Audrey available on any of the big US grower's catalogs so this one is coming from Canada; thank you neighbors to the north!
Amberglow is the second. I actually ordered this from Parkland several years ago, was the last year Bob took orders but mine was one of those that went unfulfilled due to medical issues. Don't know Bob personally, just via email, but sure hope he's doing better and that removing the stress of a commercial growing enterprise allows him the time to enjoy his own garden. Anyway, Amberglow isn't by a hybridizer that I normally collect, it was introduced by Thurlow & Strange (which was strange to me as I'd never seen the names on any other peonies I was interested in). It's a late bloomer and a double; that combo should be something I'm avoiding like the plague with the retirement plans we have but I couldn't resist when it showed up on the huge La Pivoinerie D'Aoust list this year. Another thanks to our NttN. Sorry again to hear of yet another loss of a source for amazing peonies but hope she enjoys her retirement.
Constance Spry is this fall's acquisition that has been on the list for the longest, probably 6 years or so. Another Saunders peony, imagine that! I've seen that this one has been offered previously by US growers just from internet searches but I've not been able to find it until this year, again at La Pivoinerie D'Aoust. Boy will she be missed!
The third is Greenland. This one's only been on my list since last spring; one of many that were added after I found the peony groups on Facebook. The pictures shared of this one were amazing and it's supposed to be a great parent, snapped it up the second I saw it on Solaris this winter. Missed out on a few more that I wanted but they'll eventually be mine....
Lastly for me is Nelda's Joy. Discovered this one about the same time I met LG on Pinterest! Kept waiting for the Hollingsworth's site to go active this year, finally found out that I was going to be travelling during that time. Actually emailed them and asked if they could give me a heads up as to when it was going to "hit the street" so I could make sure I was somewhere with an internet connection but Juergen emailed me back that they'd reserve one for me which I thought was AMAZING! I know some were concerned when Hollingsworth's sold but I've seen absolutely no slippage of quality or customer service since then; if anything it might be even better.
This has been a long post; sorry I've been preoccupied and haven't participated much here in the last several weeks. I've found a new obsession that will go right along with my peony obsession--irises. I was totally AMAZED to see some of the gorgeous irises that have been introduced in the last 10 years or so, color combos that almost defy imagination. And the new intros are well under $100, can't normally say that for new peonies, huh? Not knocking my first gardening love but that's the truth--we're paying a very pretty penny for roots, right? Well, so far my iris collection has grown from less than twenty now to almost 200 by the time this planting season is over and I've spent less than I spent on Solaris alone. AND I joined a local iris society! Looking forward to regular visits and gardening sessions (they maintain several public gardens in Colorado Springs) with them, it'll be nice to be with people where I'm normal instead of the "crazy obsessive compulsive gardening lady" like at work! And who thinks I'll be converting some of them to peony addicts?? Maybe I can drum up enough interest to get a CO peony society started up, wouldn't that be amazing?

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Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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Aug 15, 2017 6:19 AM CST

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Nice Liz to have another flower love. Keeps the season of growing even brighter. Sounds like now you will have some iris to move in your moving days in years to come.

Little plug in for those "old fashion" societies and clubs. They are nice to have around, friends to talk favorite plants are treasured ones and in real time and real places. I hope you enjoy it. The more you put into them, the more you get out of them. Many of these types of garden communities are dying. Maybe I am old school, but I have really enjoyed friendships from them and the active involvement.

Most anticipated root? I'm not so sure that I can even recall what I ordered. I tried to be "good" and refrain but there are a few coming and I'm stressing out where they shall be placed. Nothing prepared as of yet....or who do I kick out? A number of peonies (75% of what I ordered) from the closeout sale of Bannister will go to new homes of friends and neighbors, leaving me some wiggle room. So that is good or maybe I should say a good solution for a botched order.

I already feel the fall creeping in. Whoa! Stop! I am not ready for this yet.
Tracey
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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AlexUnder
Aug 16, 2017 9:54 AM CST
Henry Bockstoce for me since I acquired nice sturdy good looking loops a couple years ago and are not afraid of it kissing the ground any more. Always wanted something magnificent for vase. Now I have to wait another 3 years before it could be done, but nothing in the garden multiplies fast except weeds. Ordering it was a separate saga...
Name: Gary Ray
North Carolina (Zone 7b)
graycrna4u
Aug 16, 2017 4:59 PM CST
I have held myself in check for the last 5 years not making any big orders and only buying local plants. This year however, I seem to have broken out of my slump. I have 20+ roots coming this fall and I am in a real snit trying to figure out where to put them.

from Fina:
Lady Kate
Eskimo Pie
Green Halo
Green Lotus
Maestro
Kirinmaru
Montaro Peach Boy

from Hollingsworth:
Tourangelle
Joker
My Love
Grace Batson
Pink Cotton Candy
Minuet
Hot Chocolate
Command Performance
The Mackinac Grand

from Adelmans:
Ann Cousins
Candy Heart
Henry Bockstoce
Rosy Prospects

I am looking forward to them all. I will post pics as they come in. Thanks for a good thread.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Aug 17, 2017 6:42 AM CST
Tracey and Gary, I know what you mean about the anxiety induced about not knowing where to plant those incoming roots! I refuse to start any new ones, actually plan to scale back at least one in the next couple of years.
Alex, what did you find for a ring? I have tomato cages and the typical ring on 3 legs, functional but far from sturdy or pretty. Would love to see what you're using!
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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Aug 17, 2017 8:24 AM CST
I ordered more seeds including the species peony ,obovata, which I never see sold here. It is one which will take some shade , so it would be good for this over grown yard. But I will be into my eighties when it blooms ! --- that is if they germinate readily ! Well that will be years of happy anticipation if they do germinate !
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Aug 17, 2017 1:02 PM CST
Obovata and Japonica both struggle in the dry shade here, think I have 1 single Japonica still struggling to survive in my garden. Emodi and Vetchii seem to do much better. Hope you're successful, would love to see pictures of them blooming, Caroline!
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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Aug 17, 2017 6:00 PM CST
Emodi and Veitchii do better in shade there?
I will need to look for them.
And I have ideas on removing some trees here.

Today, I was in a garden center where the spruce trees had been
trimmed down to almost a palm tree shape ! These are too big to do that now so it is big $ to remove them.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Aug 17, 2017 7:14 PM CST
Those grow better here in the dry shade that we have, if you have more moist shade it might be different for you. Can't grow hostas well here, either.
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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Aug 18, 2017 7:47 AM CST
I can grow hostas near where I want to grow peonies in part shade.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Aug 18, 2017 9:58 AM CST
Then you'll probably be more successful with the Obovata than I was. I forgot that I got a bigger Japonica from Peony Envy last fall and planted it away from the pines. Wasn't impressive at all this spring but I think it survived, we'll see what it looks like next spring. It's super early, probably another strike against it here.
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Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
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AlexUnder
Aug 18, 2017 1:58 PM CST
Lee Valley loop with a single stake with adjustable height - second hand :)
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Aug 20, 2017 11:57 AM CST
I think I am very excited of all the peonies that I am receiving this year. They are all that I have wanted for a long time so it is hard to narrow down ones I am most anticipated. Having said that, I will be ecstatic if I get to see a few blooms from Pastelegance, Hot Chocolate, and Blonde Vision next spring. Seeing gorgeous pics of these peonies this past spring as well as from previous years will make it very hard if they decide not to bloom next year.

Tracey, it is no doubt that I am as much in your situation as you described. I have few spots already prepared but I have many more coming than the prepared holes.

Alex, so sorry about your Henry Bockstoce. I hope that you will be able to get it someday. In the meantime, Red Charm makes a good substitute for HB esp. as cut flower. RC lasts a long time as cut flower.

Caroline, good luck with your species peonies. I would love to see blooms from them someday from your garden.

Gary, that is a fine looking list! Though I don't envy you when it comes to preparing beds or holes for them.
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Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Aug 24, 2017 11:38 AM CST
I have ordered only two cultivars, Athena and Chalice, three of each, from Adelman's (first ever order from Adelman's).

Both Athena and Chalice are cultivars that bloom very early when I am yearning for blooms in one particular garden after the bleak brown of winter. I already have plenty of mid-season blooming peonies in that garden, and by the time they finish blooming other plants are ready to capture center stage.

Carol H. Sandt

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Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
Aug 24, 2017 11:57 AM CST
Well it's hard to pick one that I am most excited about. I get so excited about all of them. Now waiting for them to fulfill my dreams of how they will look in my garden is another thing. Lately they seem to be taking forever to perform at the "wow" level.

Visions of Sugar Plums is one. Vanilla Schnapps is another.
Crossing Fingers!
LG - My garden grows with love and a lot of hard work.
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Sep 9, 2017 7:40 AM CST
Only had one seed labelled as May Lilac, and it sprung a root after 5 months warm. Potted it, and put in frig as it is still warm daytimes here for a few weeks.

Question: They should not experience freezing at this stage ?
Unless done outdoors ?

And if they freeze--does that time count as chilling ?
Does chilling for 3 months mean chilling without freezing?

Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Sep 9, 2017 9:48 AM CST
Wow. I put mine in little 3" pots then buried pots in ground. Didn't work so well. Oh, I did it last fall so they had all winter to chill. Am going to try again this year with Lemon Chiffon. The seeds are red right now so still waiting for the pods to burst and as soon as the seeds show black, I will plant them. Seems like a winter in the ground simulates chilling. lol. Unless they need warmth, then chill, then warmth...
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Sep 9, 2017 11:57 AM CST
Caroline, I am not experienced with seeds but have some seedlings from 2015 and 2016 fall which never froze. I had enough trouble with freezing peony roots in pots. My seedlings are all in small pots. I plan to plant them in the garden next spring after keeping them in the cold over winter.
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Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Sep 9, 2017 9:15 PM CST
I don't think they really need to freeze, Caroline. From what I've read near freezing temps for 2-3 months is good. I placed all of the seeds I sowed in 2 gallon pots with the bottoms cut out, just so I'd know where the seeds were when planted outside, have had no issues with them. I'm pulling my first tree peony seedlings out of one of those pots to plant out this fall! Sure hope I don't kill it, any advice would be great!
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Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Sep 11, 2017 9:32 AM CST
I have maybe six seeds germinated with tiny plants maybe 1.5" tall. I am leaving them alone til next year. Managed to lose the paper telling me what they are. Just some seeds from the APS sales given to me by a friend. I am waiting for Lemon Chiffon to mature seeds and then will plant them. Will have quite a few, much more than I can use. I think Karen wants some along with purple poppy seeds so that is on my list. Anyone else wanting some to try out can tree-mail me. I also got some seeds from Wind Chimes at ABG and planted around 30 of those. Will be giving those to ABG to sell when they are large enough if successful.
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