Plant Database forum: Sorrel confusion

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Aug 12, 2017 4:14 PM CST
I have two sorrels, Rumex sanguineus, commonly known as bloody dock with reddish arrow shapes leaves; and what I believe to be Rumex scutatus, commonly known as French sorrel. In the database are 3 photos of R. scutatus which are quite different than my plant - the leaves shown are arrow shaped, whereas mine are a definite shield shape. I *think* perhaps the 3 photos under S. scutatus might be R. acetosa, garden sorrel. I unfortunately do not have a good photo of my French sorrel and it is looking pretty scrappy at the moment so not a good time for photo op. I've looked online and the images of R. scutatus appear to be in line with the plant I have -- whereas the ones in our database look more like R. acetosa.

The photos in question were submitted by @vic @DianeSeeds and @pphanfx -- perhaps they can shed some light on this.

I am simply wanting to add the proper plant to my personal list and find myself confused. Some sites seem to use the term garden sorrel and French sorrel interchangeably, others clarify by using the term true French sorrel (I guess as opposed to fake French sorrel...?)

Thanks for any help resolving my confusion.

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pphanfx
Aug 12, 2017 5:00 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing No worries, @Bonehead , a closer look at what I've uploaded appears to be R. Acetosa - Garden Sorrel. The Plant Database looks like a real chore to review and sort, as there are so many species and subspecies. I believe I would simply propose a move of my plant to R. Acetosa.
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vic
Aug 12, 2017 5:07 PM CST
Not sure which photo you're referring to but if you go back and look at mine, I'm thinking you will see in the caption it was downloaded with permission by whoever's name is there and I'll be honest - I have no clue. *Blush*
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Bonehead
Aug 12, 2017 6:22 PM CST
I checked DianeSeeds' profile and she joined back in May and uploaded many lovely photos at about that same time. Doesn't look like she's been very active since then. I'd give her a week or so to perhaps respond, it appears she is the owner of a seed company and she may have good info to contribute.
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Name: Philip
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pphanfx
Aug 14, 2017 9:39 PM CST
Mine was moved from French Sorrel to Garden Sorrel, R. Acetosa subs. acetosa. Thumbs up
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