Plant ID forum: A plant I am seeing while visiting in England.

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Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 14, 2017 3:25 AM CST

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I've asked locals. They don't know the name of it. The leaves are not prickly or sharp.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Aug 14, 2017 4:12 AM CST
Perhaps a Phormium? While it wouldn't be hardy to the Zone 6b you mentiond I think, I don't think Glastonbury would be colder than equivalent to USDA Zone 8. I grew Phormium outdoors when I lived on the UK south coast, probably Zone 9.

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longk
Aug 14, 2017 6:11 AM CST
I agree, it is a Phormium (New Zealand Flax). Easily hardy to -10°c if the soil is free draining but the plant will go lower if a heavy mulch is applied around the crown.
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Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 14, 2017 8:24 AM CST
So you think it's possible for me to grow one in my zone if I micro zone it and mulch it well?
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sooby
Aug 14, 2017 8:31 AM CST
What is your zone? Glastonbury would not be zone 6b so is that your home zone? Longk said to -10C which is Zone 8. USDA Zone 6 would be around -20C which is more than a bit lower. I would say not, but maybe someone has experience with trying. I've only grown it where it was either hardy outside (UK) or an annual (Canada Zone 4).
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islander
Aug 14, 2017 12:20 PM CST
Might be Phormium cookianum 'Cream Delight'
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longk
Aug 14, 2017 12:39 PM CST
SpringGreenThumb said:So you think it's possible for me to grow one in my zone if I micro zone it and mulch it well?

I've had a two year planted plant take -12°c for a handful of nights.
It is very popular in landscape and municipal planting here because much as I said -10°c it is proven to be hardier. The winter of 2010/11 saw -18°c overnight for about a week with nothing above -2°c for nearly three weeks yet very few of these large plants died. Two points to bear in mind here though;
1] that was a freak winter. If it was subjected to that year in year out I suspect that would be too much
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2] I am talking about large plants.

So as far as I'm concerned -10°c is safe.
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purpleinopp
Aug 15, 2017 5:07 AM CST
I think I know what happened here? SpringGreenThumb lives in Z6a somewhere in the US but changed location in profile while on vacay in UK. ??
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sooby
Aug 15, 2017 6:22 AM CST
purpleinopp said:I think I know what happened here? SpringGreenThumb lives in Z6a somewhere in the US but changed location in profile while on vacay in UK. ??


That's what I assumed too. There's no way Glastonbury UK is Zone 6.

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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 18, 2017 3:42 PM CST
Yes,

I was on vacation. I did change my location to make the post because I knew folks would look at my location and use that to make a guess. Thank you for your help.

Yes. That's what the plant is. I found one at a local nursery in England and looked at the tag. I've seen only baby ones which look much different in the Salt Lake City Nurseries. I think it's sold as an annual... but could possibly survive by micro-zoning it in an area that does not freeze solid. Might be worth a try.
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 18, 2017 4:05 PM CST
So that would be that the plant is probably only hardy to about 20 degrees F.
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greene
Aug 18, 2017 4:05 PM CST
Will you be allowed to bring the plant into the US? Better check first or they might confiscate it.
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Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 18, 2017 5:01 PM CST
I can just buy it in the US.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Aug 18, 2017 7:13 PM CST
SpringGreenThumb said:So that would be that the plant is probably only hardy to about 20 degrees F.


-10C is 14F according to my conversion app.
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longk
Aug 19, 2017 2:40 AM CST
Nope, they are sold as the perennial that they generally are.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Aug 19, 2017 4:14 AM CST
longk said:Nope, they are sold as the perennial that they generally are.


I believe what was meant was that they are sold as an annual in much of the USA (and where I am in Canada for that matter). I grew it as a perennial when I lived in the UK where the winters are much milder.

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islander
Aug 19, 2017 7:32 AM CST
Phormium are perennial where I'm at unless it gets down to -15C or so on a wet winter. Some cultivars fair better than others.
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 22, 2017 6:34 AM CST
I meant it as an annual in my zone.
I've seen them as baby plants in flower baskets. I had not seen them as mature plants so I didn't know what they are. They change in color and texture as they mature.

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