The second one looks much like "x Graptoveria 'Vera Higgins'" on YuccaDo, but they are not certain of the name. The leaves looked to me thicker and more rounded than X Graptoveria paraguayense x ciliata, their description says what I thought.
http://www.yuccado.com/x-grapt...
Someone who purchased this plant from YuccaDo posted on a forum, the respondent said this: "It looks to me more like an xEchisedum or an xGraptosedum. I have both types, and they are hardier than xGraptoverias."
http://www.cloudforest.com/nor...
Searching XGraptosedum, I came across Graptosedum 'Vera Higgins' ! This looks different.
http://www.sedumphotos.net/v/s...
Graptosedum 'Vera Higgins' looks different to the above on SM Growers..
http://www.smgrowers.com/produ...
Going back to search for XGraptosedum, I came across a possible match. XGraptosedum Francesco Baldi
http://s9.photobucket.com/albu...
http://www.sedumphotos.net/v/s...
http://gardenbreizh.org/photos...
"a cross between Graptopetalum paraguayense and Sedum pachyphyllum"
http://tulear.blogspot.com/200...
The next site shows flowers..
http://crassulaceae.net/xgrapt...