Daylilies forum: Has anyone grown "Little Swirling Shadows"?

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mystlw
Aug 20, 2017 2:40 PM CST
I recently purchased "Little Swirling Shadows" -- among others -- and surprisingly received a small, four-fanned clump. I'm worried, though, that all of the daylily websites seem to use the same photo for this plant, while the ones posted on the plant pages here look nothing like it.
I'm not sure that I'm allowed to post any of the photos that I'm referring to, per copyright and such, but this was an expensive daylily, and the pictures on websites selling this plant really don't resemble the ones posted here by users. (This is not to say that the photos posted by users aren't beautiful, because they ARE, they just don't look like the website ones.)

Anyone have an idea why that is?
My "I'd-pawn-a-grandchild-for-a-single-fan" list: Absolutely Fantastic, Ambar Sun, Chief Bitesalot, I B Little, Of Olden Days, Sharyn Lianne.
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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mystlw
Aug 20, 2017 2:44 PM CST
Also, can anyone tell me how to edit my thread title to correct my jughead spelling error? I can't seem to find a way. Confused
My "I'd-pawn-a-grandchild-for-a-single-fan" list: Absolutely Fantastic, Ambar Sun, Chief Bitesalot, I B Little, Of Olden Days, Sharyn Lianne.
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Aug 20, 2017 3:06 PM CST
When you go to the database, you can click on the AHS Website which contains the hybridizer's photo http://www.daylilies.org/Dayli... that came with the registration. It looks different from the two in the NGA database. The description on the AHS page also describes it as 100% double. I really doubt that since I believe that both photos in the database are probably true for the plant and just a variation of what it can produce under different growing and weather conditions. Are your sources using the hybridizer's photo? If so, then depending on your growing conditions and the weather, you may see any of the three photos represented by the blooms when they show up. IMO
Donald
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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mystlw
Aug 20, 2017 3:43 PM CST
needrain said:When you go to the database, you can click on the AHS Website which contains the hybridizer's photo http://www.daylilies.org/Dayli... that came with the registration. It looks different from the two in the NGA database. The description on the AHS page also describes it as 100% double. I really doubt that since I believe that both photos in the database are probably true for the plant and just a variation of what it can produce under different growing and weather conditions. Are your sources using the hybridizer's photo? If so, then depending on your growing conditions and the weather, you may see any of the three photos represented by the blooms when they show up. IMO


Thank you for responding! Yes, the website uses that photo from the hybridizer, they all seem to. Honestly, I've lurked in these forums enough to trust the members that posted the photos on the plant page. And though those photos are very pretty, I don't know that I would have paid so much for a flower that looks like that image.
It's probably too late in the season for me to see what my blooms would look like, so I hope next spring's blooms look more like the hybridizer's photo.
My "I'd-pawn-a-grandchild-for-a-single-fan" list: Absolutely Fantastic, Ambar Sun, Chief Bitesalot, I B Little, Of Olden Days, Sharyn Lianne.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Aug 20, 2017 4:26 PM CST
@mystlw,
Looking at the dates of when the plant was obtained by the four members showing it, looks like 2015 was the oldest. So it is possible that the blooms shown in the database, were first year blooms in those gardens. Some who own it have not posted a picture and that might indicate it takes a while to settle in and that it might not even bloom the first year. I am thinking that in time it will look more like the hybridizers photo.
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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mystlw
Aug 20, 2017 8:54 PM CST
Seedfork said:@mystlw,
Looking at the dates of when the plant was obtained by the four members showing it, looks like 2015 was the oldest. So it is possible that the blooms shown in the database, were first year blooms in those gardens. Some who own it have not posted a picture and that might indicate it takes a while to settle in and that it might not even bloom the first year. I am thinking that in time it will look more like the hybridizers photo.


That's a good point, thank you! But I don't know if anyone has had this plant since 2015; I put it on my Want list last summer, and when I recently changed it to "Have", it kept the date that I first listed it as Wanted. It appears that I have had it since last August, when I actually only changed it a few days ago. I don't understand why it does that.

But it's good to know that even if it doesn't immediately bloom as the hybridizer's photo, it could eventually become that flower. Smiling
My "I'd-pawn-a-grandchild-for-a-single-fan" list: Absolutely Fantastic, Ambar Sun, Chief Bitesalot, I B Little, Of Olden Days, Sharyn Lianne.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Aug 21, 2017 9:36 AM CST
@mystlw
You should be able to click on the plant log events icon and edit the date the plant was acquired.
Name: James
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JWWC
Aug 21, 2017 10:34 AM CST
needrain said: The description on the AHS page also describes it as 100% double.


There isn't really a reason to doubt that - the plant is registered how it performs for the hybridizer. Under those conditions it may double consistently.


That said, I have grown the plant since introduction. Of the minis released that year, it seems to be the most tender. I will have to check if I have a photo of it anywhere (it did not bloom this year so I have to dig) but I have seen double and single blooms on it. The color has been nearly spot on to the hybridizer's photo.
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Aug 21, 2017 12:34 PM CST
JWWC said:

There isn't really a reason to doubt that - the plant is registered how it performs for the hybridizer. Under those conditions it may double consistently.


That said, I have grown the plant since introduction. Of the minis released that year, it seems to be the most tender. I will have to check if I have a photo of it anywhere (it did not bloom this year so I have to dig) but I have seen double and single blooms on it. The color has been nearly spot on to the hybridizer's photo.

Poor wording on my part, I guess. I didn't doubt that it did that for the hybridizer. But when you read the official reg info, some things like bud count, doubling, height and size of bloom may be quite different when not grown under the same conditions. I think some folks read them and expect the same performance and it may never happen. I also tend to view hybridizer's photos as a bloom reaching near the absolute potential that it can be and that may different than the average bloom you get. I know I try to photograph blooms at their very best, so that's not criticism. Most of us aren't really able to provide optimum growing conditions that allow a plant to reach its maximum potential. That potential is still there, though.
Donald

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