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Aug 20, 2017 5:02 PM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Do you let your heleniums self sow ? to get those beautiful drifts ?
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Aug 21, 2017 8:09 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Mine have not produced seedlings that I've noticed. I divided them this spring and they haven't put on a very good show this summer.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Aug 22, 2017 3:14 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
Thanks Neal. I will just either put in bigger plants bought locally or buy multiples. I don't know where I read they reseeded.
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Aug 24, 2017 5:34 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
I've read that they seed themselves too, but that could be more evident in the species (non hybrids). Or perhaps conditions aren't ideal in my garden.

I regret dividing mine, it had formed such a nice clump. Hopefully the divisions will bulk up next year.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Aug 24, 2017 7:34 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
I have noticed my new plants are flopping. Do you think they will need supports after the first year ?
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Aug 25, 2017 6:03 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Hmmm...seems mine was bushier and nicer the 2nd year and didn't have a problem with flopping. We've had a wetter than usual summer and I've wondered if that negatively impacted them. Has summer been rainy there? I also fertilized my gardens this spring after doing soil tests and finding my NPK levels were low. This also had me wondering if they prefer leaner soil.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Aug 25, 2017 7:05 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
We have had a wetter summer than in the past. Great for the new plants, no need to constantly carry water to the newbies.
I should probably get my soil tested too. some plants have a bright yellowgreen look.

Heleniums like a clay and sand soil, my impression was they don't like it too rich. I will check and get back to you.
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