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Virginia (Zone 7a)
Aug 23, 2017 7:14 AM CST
|I'm hopping that some experienced DL junkie (s) will be kind enough to answer a newbie question, but after searching through the form I haven't been able to find the answer.|
Why are green throats on blossoms desirable? I would think that a blossom whose color extended as deeply as possible into the center would be the goal.
Or is this yet another case of personal preference?
Aug 23, 2017 7:32 AM CST
|For me its personal preference. I find it makes the flowers pop more than a yellow, altho there is a place for that too. |
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
Aug 23, 2017 8:17 AM CST
|It's an evolutionary thang.....hybridizers are always looking for the newest and latest trait, form, color, or whatever that arises spontaneously from the genome and then they develop that look even farther. Being older than dirt, I can remember when there were very few green throats and when they first appeared as vivid green, hybridizers were fascinated with them because as Pam said, they made colors "pop" so they set about making them even larger. Now that big green throats are more commonplace, hybridizers are again looking for other desirable traits that may be arising....sculpted forms, teeth in unexpected places, new color combinations that didn't exist 5 years ago, fabulous patterns, unusual watermarks, etc. Throat color is a matter of preference. Daylilies would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things!!!|
Aug 23, 2017 8:57 AM CST
|Personal preference for me too. The green throats originated with the species and have expanded since then. Hemerocallis citrina and H. thunbergii are said to have green throats (see the Origin of the Daylily Cultivar Traits by Dr. Juerg Plodeck - http://www.hemerocallis-europa... but I don't find it very noticeable on the H. thunbergii that I have but maybe I should look earlier in the day. It is definitely noticeable on H. citrina. I went out and took some pictures since mine are in flower:|
It's a bit more noticeable to the eye on Hemerocallis hakuunensis but maybe not so much in the picture:
Even more noticeable on Hemerocallis fulva var. rosea 'Rosalind'
And also on H. fulva 'Variegated Kwanso':
Aug 23, 2017 9:09 AM CST
|I am very out of it when it comes to the latest trends in daylilies, preferring characteristics that I find inherently beautiful as a matter of personal preference. Blooms with large green throats definitely fill the bill for me. I love to combine daylilies that have dark blooms and green throats with daylilies that have greenish yellow blooms and green throats. |
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Virginia (Zone 7a)
Aug 23, 2017 10:22 AM CST
|Thank you all.|
It's a little confusing coming from something like dog showing where there is a set standard (albeit subject to interpretation) to daylilies where there doesn't appear to be such to refer to. I do however enjoy lurking and learning!
California (Zone 8b)
Aug 23, 2017 10:37 AM CST
|If you look long enough and hard enough, there's probably some green in the the throat of just about every daylily.|
I think the fascination with green throats might have come about because in the early days of hybridizing, many daylilies had harsh yellow or gold throats which didn't really go all that well with the dominant color of the segments. Green tends to complement most colors, and human beings tend to associate the color green with concepts such as "clean", "cool", "refreshing", and "healthy". Well, at least plant health.
I grow a few daylilies without green throats which I really enjoy, but not that many. Frank Gladney is one, Serena Sunburst is another. There were also some older Munson daylilies such as Chinese Autumn which rocked an amber or creamy throat to good effect. Pastels can get away with it, reds, lavenders, pinks and reds, not so much.
Aug 23, 2017 1:16 PM CST
|I love large or geometric shape green throats on daylilies. As Pam mentioned above, the green color really makes other colors pop. Here are some of my favorite green throats:|
Rose F Kennedy
Violet Stained Glass
Aug 23, 2017 1:50 PM CST
|As others have said, it is definitely personal preference and relates a lot to what the newer Trends are. I love green throats, but some of my favorite daylilies have deep golden throats with richly colored petals. I love daylilies that look like they are glowing, ...and sometimes the green simply detracts from that. That said, there are plenty of green-throated daylilies that I absolutely adore, and it is possible that green throats and bluish-colored petals may hold the key to unlocking a true blue daylily someday, you never know!|
Aug 23, 2017 3:11 PM CST
|DND, CRISPR is the key to unlocking a true blue daylily. Once the technology is cheap enough lots of flowers that are missing some colors will be modified so that they produce all the colors of the rainbow. The question is how soon it will happen.|
Aug 24, 2017 11:38 AM CST