Daylilies forum: Beginner question: green throats

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Name: Michelle
Virginia (Zone 7a)
Falke
Aug 23, 2017 7:14 AM CST
I'm hopping that some experienced DL junkie (s) will be kind enough to answer a newbie question, but after searching through the form I haven't been able to find the answer.

Why are green throats on blossoms desirable? I would think that a blossom whose color extended as deeply as possible into the center would be the goal.

Or is this yet another case of personal preference?

Thank You!
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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gardenglory
Aug 23, 2017 7:32 AM CST
For me its personal preference. I find it makes the flowers pop more than a yellow, altho there is a place for that too.
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
Davi
Aug 23, 2017 8:17 AM CST
It's an evolutionary thang.....hybridizers are always looking for the newest and latest trait, form, color, or whatever that arises spontaneously from the genome and then they develop that look even farther. Being older than dirt, I can remember when there were very few green throats and when they first appeared as vivid green, hybridizers were fascinated with them because as Pam said, they made colors "pop" so they set about making them even larger. Now that big green throats are more commonplace, hybridizers are again looking for other desirable traits that may be arising....sculpted forms, teeth in unexpected places, new color combinations that didn't exist 5 years ago, fabulous patterns, unusual watermarks, etc. Throat color is a matter of preference. Daylilies would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things!!!
Name: Sue
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sooby
Aug 23, 2017 8:57 AM CST
Personal preference for me too. The green throats originated with the species and have expanded since then. Hemerocallis citrina and H. thunbergii are said to have green throats (see the Origin of the Daylily Cultivar Traits by Dr. Juerg Plodeck - http://www.hemerocallis-europa... but I don't find it very noticeable on the H. thunbergii that I have but maybe I should look earlier in the day. It is definitely noticeable on H. citrina. I went out and took some pictures since mine are in flower:

Hemerocallis citrina:
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Hemerocallis thunbergii:
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It's a bit more noticeable to the eye on Hemerocallis hakuunensis but maybe not so much in the picture:
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Even more noticeable on Hemerocallis fulva var. rosea 'Rosalind'
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And also on H. fulva 'Variegated Kwanso':
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Name: Carol Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Aug 23, 2017 9:09 AM CST
I am very out of it when it comes to the latest trends in daylilies, preferring characteristics that I find inherently beautiful as a matter of personal preference. Blooms with large green throats definitely fill the bill for me. I love to combine daylilies that have dark blooms and green throats with daylilies that have greenish yellow blooms and green throats.

Some examples:



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Name: Michelle
Virginia (Zone 7a)
Falke
Aug 23, 2017 10:22 AM CST
Thank you all.

It's a little confusing coming from something like dog showing where there is a set standard (albeit subject to interpretation) to daylilies where there doesn't appear to be such to refer to. I do however enjoy lurking and learning! I'm all ears!
Name: James
California (Zone 8b)
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JamesT
Aug 23, 2017 10:37 AM CST
If you look long enough and hard enough, there's probably some green in the the throat of just about every daylily.

I think the fascination with green throats might have come about because in the early days of hybridizing, many daylilies had harsh yellow or gold throats which didn't really go all that well with the dominant color of the segments. Green tends to complement most colors, and human beings tend to associate the color green with concepts such as "clean", "cool", "refreshing", and "healthy". Well, at least plant health. Whistling

I grow a few daylilies without green throats which I really enjoy, but not that many. Frank Gladney is one, Serena Sunburst is another. There were also some older Munson daylilies such as Chinese Autumn which rocked an amber or creamy throat to good effect. Pastels can get away with it, reds, lavenders, pinks and reds, not so much.
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Aug 23, 2017 1:16 PM CST
I love large or geometric shape green throats on daylilies. As Pam mentioned above, the green color really makes other colors pop. Here are some of my favorite green throats:

Rose F Kennedy
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Violet Stained Glass
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Malachite Sunbird
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Janes Prism
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Name: Dnd
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DogsNDaylilies
Aug 23, 2017 1:50 PM CST
As others have said, it is definitely personal preference and relates a lot to what the newer Trends are. I love green throats, but some of my favorite daylilies have deep golden throats with richly colored petals. I love daylilies that look like they are glowing, Lovey dubby ...and sometimes the green simply detracts from that. That said, there are plenty of green-throated daylilies that I absolutely adore, and it is possible that green throats and bluish-colored petals may hold the key to unlocking a true blue daylily someday, you never know!
Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Aug 23, 2017 3:11 PM CST
DND, CRISPR is the key to unlocking a true blue daylily. Once the technology is cheap enough lots of flowers that are missing some colors will be modified so that they produce all the colors of the rainbow. The question is how soon it will happen.
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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gardenglory
Aug 24, 2017 11:38 AM CST
Malachite Sunbird....yum

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