Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Orphaned Succulent IDs Needed

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Name: Lindsey
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ljones26
Aug 23, 2017 4:53 PM CST
Hello all!

So the manager at the boutique I work at decided to quit all of the sudden, and she left all her plants there and said she no longer wanted them. I just COULDN'T say no to them, so now they are home with me. Lovey dubby Could you help me with ID's please? A couple are really etiolated, so hopefully they do better with me rather than alone at the store.

1.) Peperomia species



2.) Etiolated little guy

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3.) Another etiolated

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4.) Jade species

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5.) A christmas cactus, what is the botanical name?? Additionally, I don't even know the name for my christmas cactus I already have. Is it the same as the new one or something different?


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(I realize my old one is very sad looking. I bought it that way, hoping it would do better :// Still holding on after a year though! They clearly only watered with hard water, whereas I only use rain water)

6.) Are both of these Golden Sedums?

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The top one is my own I bought from a place that did not give it enough light. I brought it home and put it under the grow light, and it really greened up. The second is the orphan!

Much appreciated, THANK YOU Smiling

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Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Aug 23, 2017 5:08 PM CST
Score!

3 - possible: Echeveria 'Perle von Nurnberg'
4- some form of Crassula ovata: https://garden.org/plants/sear...
5- S. truncata: Christmas Cactus (Schlumbergera truncata)
6- Maybe but I don't think so, if they have been in same light. Possible Sedeveria-type hybrid.
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Name: Lindsey
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ljones26
Aug 23, 2017 5:21 PM CST
Thanks so much Tiffany!

And actually I forgot to mention.... in #6 the top one is my own I bought awhile back from a place that gave it like no light. I brought it home and put it under the grow light and it really greened up. The second one is the one from the store! But that first one does look like a Sedeveria now that you say it....

Thanks (:
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Name: Lindsey
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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ljones26
Aug 23, 2017 5:37 PM CST
New question...what are the physical traits that distinguish a sedum and a sedeveria? Smiling
Name: Sweetwind
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Sweetwind
Aug 23, 2017 8:33 PM CST
the last one under #6 that is sort of yellowish looks like one I have called Sedum nussbaumerianum, coppertone stonecrop.

Name: Lindsey
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ljones26
Aug 23, 2017 8:48 PM CST
Thank you!!(: I actually read that the new accepted name for your plant is Sedum adolphii (: that's what I thought it was, thank you!!

I am thinking the top one is a sedeveria because it has wider leaves than the regular sedum due to be crossed with an echeveria.

Let's see what the expert things about all of these. @baja_costero what do you think?
Name: Sweetwind
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Sweetwind
Aug 23, 2017 9:06 PM CST
It gets confusing with all the names when they change lol. That's if they had the right ones in the first place or any at all xD I'll have to mark it in my book. I have a sedum adolphii (firestorm) and it looks like a smaller version of it with red, so that makes more sense to me now!
Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Aug 23, 2017 9:58 PM CST

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To be honest I get lost among the Sedums, not really my thing, more Echeverias here.

Regarding intergeneric hybrids between the two (xSedeverias)... the only general observation I can offer would relate to flower shape. The Sedums that hybridize with Echeveria tend to be the shrubby, lateral-flowering types. From what I've seen, their flowers are open (flat) as opposed to closed (tubular) which is the characteristic shape of Echeverias. So as you might imagine the hybrid flowers may have an intermediate phenotype, which is to say spreading but not open. Sometimes more closed than others, depending on the example.

The key is in the Latin text on this page: characteribus intermediis (which very much applies to the flowers).

http://www.crassulaceae.ch/de/...
Name: Lindsey
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ljones26
Aug 23, 2017 9:59 PM CST
Thanks so much everyone!!! Do you recognize any of the IDs per chance? Smiling
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Baja_Costero
Aug 24, 2017 9:43 AM CST

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I can't help much beyond what Tiffany has already suggested. Smiling
Name: Lindsey
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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ljones26
Aug 24, 2017 9:48 AM CST
Thank you both!!! Smiling

I did find out that #1 is a Peperomia pecuniifolia. Smiling
Name: Deborah
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Deebie
Aug 24, 2017 6:57 PM CST
I agree #6 appears to be coppertone sedum, #5 sedeveria, but I think #3 looks more like Graptoveria Fred Ives and #4 a mini jade.
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lauriebasler
Oct 20, 2017 9:23 PM CST
Free plants are so much fun.
Give them all as much light as you possibly can!

These guys are going to want pruning and pinching, giving you even more plants. The pieces you remove can grow new plants.
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Oct 21, 2017 4:41 AM CST
How are things going with these fun finds?
👀😁😂 - SMILE! -☺😎☻☮👌✌∞☯🐣🐦🐔🐝🍯🐾
The less I interfere, the more balance mother nature provides.
👒🎄👣🏡🍃🍂🌾🌿🍁❦❧ 🍃🍁🍂🌾🌻🌸🌼🌹🌽❀☀🌺
☕👓 The only way to succeed is to try.
Name: Lindsey
Ohio (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers cold winters Dog Lover Cat Lover Bromeliad
Container Gardener Region: Ohio Cactus and Succulents Greenhouse
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ljones26
Oct 21, 2017 7:58 AM CST
They are doing wonderful, thanks for asking!! Smiling all very happy.

@lauriebasler how do you suggest pruning?? Thank you so much!

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