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Aug 23, 2017 10:05 PM CST
(Zone 5b)
Roses
Hello Everyone

I am new to the forum, this is my 1st post. Located in Denver CO area.

I am planning to order following climbing roses either this fall or next spring
Climbing Pinkie
Golden Sun
Jamina
Korde s- Moonlight
Laguna
Nahema

Looking for suggestions on the rose nurseries, It looks like Palatine is one of the highly rated nursery , any other ?
Thanks
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Aug 24, 2017 6:28 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Although I have no personal experience, I have heard nothing but good about Palatine.
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Aug 24, 2017 7:13 AM CST
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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I have had good experience with Palatine for roses grafted to multiflora rootstock and Chamblee's Rose Nursery for own-root roses.
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Aug 24, 2017 11:22 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
I've had very good experience with Palatine Roses.

Since you live in the west, you may want to test your soil pH. Make sure you mix in a good measure of organic material when you plant, and if the pH is above, say, 7.4 you may want to add a soil acidifier such as elemental sulfur. I suspect I have lost a few good Palatine plants due to soil that is too alkaline.
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Aug 24, 2017 5:29 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
I have also bought from High Country Roses. Their roses are selected for the kinds of tough conditions faced in the Rocky Mountain west: Dry soil, intense sun, drought tolerance, vigor, and so on. I bought four plants from them this year and they seem to be doing quite well.

Rogue Valley Roses has a huge calogue, only a portion of which are in production at any one point. It's a bit more of a collector's site, but most of the roses I received from them this year were quite large for the fact that they are bands (a container about 2.5 x 2.5 x 7 inches high) I've been told that some of their production is in-house and some is offsite and that this results in some unevenness in the roses they ship. I've seen some of this in my shipments.

I bought four roses from Northland Rosarium this year for the first time, on the recommendation of Lyn, a knowledgeable rosarian at this site. I was very happy with the roses I recieved, own root roses in 4 x 4 x 8 inch containers. Two of four are dead, but one got stepped on by accident.

The own root quart roses I received this year from Jackson and Perkins were the best own root roses I received this season. J&P - near the time they went though bankruptcy ca 2010 - had earned a reputation for delivering absolutely horrid roses among a lot of contributors here. I cannot say whether my experience is typical of the quality of roses they will ship next season. I know most people who have been at this site for a long time will never buy from them again. But if I were to get roses of the same quality from them over the next several years as I did this year I cannot see why I would not be willing to recommend them again. They might end up being the best supplier of popular roses on Dr Huey rootstock which is more tolerant of high pH soils.

Chamblees is a favorite of many here, but I have not bought from them.

A source for roses that are sort of old standards might be Greenmantle. There is nothing trendy there. I have recently been told that they still deliver quality stock

Good Luck with your rose garden!
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Aug 27, 2017 8:27 AM CST
(Zone 5b)
Roses
Thanks for all the feedback.
Palantine will be my choice to place order .
Do they publish available rose list?
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Aug 27, 2017 12:30 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
On about September 11th they will update their site and open for business this season (see the Palatine roses site for exact date). There's quite a bit of continuity from year to year, so most of the cultivars you find there now are likely to appear on their list, even the ones now unavailable. When roses from the 2018 season become unavailable they mark them at the site.

Roses that are trendy can sell out in days, so if there are any you really really have to have, order early. They cheerfully hold them until your appropriate spring planting time.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
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Aug 27, 2017 1:23 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Last year they began updating their site on September 2nd. The process took a few days. You'll see that the updating has begun when the current "Sold Out" notices disappear. They will not take orders until September 11th, and they haven't specified a time, so you can assume the shopping carts will become operable at midnight. Some roses actually sell out within hours, so it's wise to be ready to place an order at the stroke of midnight in Toronto. For me in California, that's 9:00 pm on September 10th.
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Aug 27, 2017 1:56 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
We really need an animated rose petal that drops at the stroke of midnight Toronto time.
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Sep 11, 2017 10:51 AM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Palatine opened today at 9 am eastern, and their servers immediately crashed from the crush of hungry rosarians! The system is working fine now. If there is a rose you really want, hurry hurry!
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Sep 11, 2017 10:59 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
Thanks for the heads-up Cindi! Green Grin!

I notice that a couple of roses that I have in my garden are out of stock already - Ispahan, for example. (feeling smug emoticon here.... Whistling ) I placed my order, but I always find that by January I have a completely different list in mind. LOM (Laugh's on me)

Good Luck everyone!
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Dec 11, 2017 9:04 PM CST
Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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I can recommend:

rosesunlimitedsc.com

Have ordered from them several times and never been disappointed. Amazed most times.
Not sure if they have the ones you're looking for but they have a huge selection.
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Dec 11, 2017 9:13 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Jan 19, 2018 11:06 AM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
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Speaking from Nova Scotia, I don't like to assure anyone that Palantine is a good bare-root rose supplier. It isn't! It's a fabulous bare-root rose supplier, but I'm trying to keep it secret so they don't sell out!!! I just may have let the cat out of the bag. LOL. I have been ordering from same for years. I order in November for April delivery. Always great stock, and tons of Kordes hardy roses.
In Canada, there is another great rose/plant nursery with locations in Ontario and British Columbia, namely Panamnurseries. Now they do not sell retail, however in Nova Scotia, "Wallymart" carries a lot of their roses, (usually the best varieties never make it here) and COSTCO offers a bunch of their roses/plants that we can order online, delivered bare-root right to my door, all in! Like cheap prices, great bare-root stock! eg. Here, 6 Carpet Roses for $79. That's very inexpensive delivered to our door. To buy some of their nicer roses, I work with a local nursery to order them in for me, and they give me a fair price. Panamnurseries does sell into the US. Through COSTCO, Panamnurseries also offers great collections of double lilacs, rhododendrums, and on an on. I would like to think that I am a "thrifty" plant purchaser, but in actual fact, I am almost out of control for a one man operation! LOL. Then of course, I still manage to pick up tons of plants from local nurseries and chains.
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Jan 22, 2018 9:40 AM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
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A very inexpensive and beautiful rose, HT. "Love". Note: "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". LOL.

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Jan 22, 2018 9:58 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
Love survives in my garden, but only just It seems that after three years I have still not figured out how to provide it with enough water to actually grow. I love the purplish tinge of the foliage and how it sets off the magenta in the blooms. I've planted nepeta Walker's Low at its feet and still hope for one of those pink, silver, and blue moments.

BTW: Thanks, RJ, for the link to Sam Kedem. One of my favorite rose plants of all time, a Queen of Denmark, came from them and thrived in my NJ garden. I thought they had stopped doing mail order.
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Jan 22, 2018 3:31 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I applaud anyone who can get Love to grow. We had a shipment come into work a couple years ago and not one single person that I know of was able to keep it alive and that includes a boss of mine who has more roses than I do. I think the longest any of us got was 3 weeks or so. Hilarious!
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Jan 22, 2018 7:38 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I killed one too, but I don't do well with HTs generally.
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Jan 24, 2018 10:14 AM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
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Pepper23, there must be something wrong. I couldn't lose a rose, "HT. Love" in particular, in three weeks if I totally neglected it. Gets kinda cold out there where you are, did they freeze? What happened to yours? Aphids, slugs, mildew? Think you should try one again, and put it in a pot on your deck in full sun. Cheers!
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Feb 7, 2018 7:18 PM CST
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Birds Region: Canadian Clematis Lilies Peonies Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Roses Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner: 2017
I should have mentioned that Home Depot here in Nova Scotia, brings in some great bagged roses, "Canadian Hardy", "Knockout" "HT's" and on and on, $9.95 ea, sometimes down to $6.95. Wallymart also has some great rose deals, potted, not bagged. Note: If you ever have a chance to purchase any of the "Carpet" roses, do it! You will have them for life, and absolutely nothing touches same-no black spot, no aphids, slugs, midges, nothing! They bear tons of blooms and can take full sun or part shade. Cupped blooms unlike those on "Knockout" which tend to flatten out here, and they do not like full sun.

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