Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: End of summer review of arachnoideum type sempervivum

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 7, 2017 5:32 PM CST

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This morning I went out and started to take a survey of which of my arach. type semps came through this very hot and dry summer. I also want to say that these particular semps also went through months of heavy rain coupled with cold temps with no damage. All are fully exposed to the elements. All are also in full sun with no protection.
I do have some that did not fare well this past winter/spring, and certainly were no happy about the drought. Not going to show those in this thread.





More to come later. I look forward to seeing photos of your arachnoideum that have done well this difficult weather year.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Sep 8, 2017 12:14 AM CST
Lynn what a great idea! Helps us know which arachs do better! Thumbs up

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 8, 2017 1:08 AM CST

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Thank you Greg. I don't know why I didn't think of this a long time ago.
Here are a few more.
These two did have some damage from winter and spring weather, but recovered on their own.




This one also had some winter/spring damage, but recovered on it's own

Almost lost this one last year, then colony bloomed out leaving one rosette to carry on.

And the last one from photos taken today.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 8, 2017 1:19 AM CST

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Opps, forgot this little sweet one.

Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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ricos
Sep 8, 2017 1:35 AM CST
Wow Lynn this is great You couldn't do it earlier because we needed the winter of water which came before the summer of sweat and smog! Rolling on the floor laughing The Hurricane is barely a category 1 but looks healthy and happy. Zilber Baby would make Tim crazy...way too many chicks. Hilarious!
I just started propagating some of mine for next year. Don't have many. Last winter took a lot of them. Going to cover them this winter.
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Sep 8, 2017 10:21 AM CST
I don't have that many Arachs and no really big mounds, but this last winter did take make some of them look pretty miserable. My semp garden gets consistent, generous moisture throughout any hot weather.

'Pygmalion' and 'Lemon Babies' both suffered during the winter but rebounded fine with the return of warmth and sunshine.
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I love 'Lemon Babies' and am trying to spread it out a bit to make a bigger colony.

I don't know what these guys are but they look pretty happy to be rid of winter.
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I don't remember if 'Cobweb Joy' had a tough winter but it seems OK now... maybe just a bit ragged. This is the driest and very sunny corner of the semp garden.
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This guy seems a different sort of Arach, it's 'Martin #1'. 'Fords Spring' is similar. These clumps are as hard as rock and go through winter like they were made of plasticized rubber. I would try these if other Arachs were too winter stressed.
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'Stansfeldii' did lose alot of foliage in the winter but continues his acquisition of new territory.
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Sep 8, 2017 11:19 AM CST
Denise's Cobweb has been the real trooper this year. Even though some of the rosettes are growing on the pavers, they have showed no sign of flagging and it has kept a lot of red through the summer. Am glad it's behind several of my lines!

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 8, 2017 4:10 PM CST

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Rolling on the floor laughing About 'Hurricane' category 1, this is the first year it seems to be happy at my place. Both it and 'Xandra' I have had for some years now. Every time 'Xandra' has made a colony it ends up blooming out almost the entire colony. 'Hurricane' just kept trying to die. It amazes me that it did not struggle on day this year. Hurray!

Hurray! Looking very good Tim. Great photos.
I agree with your observation of 'Martin #1'. I have the same results with my colony. Tough as nails and can't see any dead leaf litter. A real keeper for sure.
I love 'Stansfeldii'. I have had if for years and it never disappoints. I got it from Perennial Obsessions.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 8, 2017 4:16 PM CST

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Kevin can you post us a photo of what your 'Denice's Cobweb' looks like now? Mine has showed the red in the past, but now that it is down in the hole it stayed green all summer. I know I have the correct one, as mine came from your colony. Last year it had some crested rosettes, this year none.
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Sep 10, 2017 4:54 PM CST
These are not my favorite but here is what i feel are strong plants.
These are my favorites if I have any in this group;
Kramer's Spinrad
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Fredegar

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Pfalzer Nebel





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Spangle

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Arachnoideum Mass Canigou
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Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Sep 10, 2017 4:58 PM CST
So when is a Arachnoideum an Arachnoideum and not just fuzzy or tufted?
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 11, 2017 10:03 AM CST

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An arachnoideum has webbing, especially in the summer. Some of them tend to loose some or all of the webbing in the cold and rainy seasons.
I think many of the tufted and hairy/fuzzy ones have some arachnoideum in their background.

Maybe Kevin can explain it to us. @JungleShadows.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Sep 11, 2017 7:00 PM CST
Julia your Arach from mass Canigou looks correct, it is what I have too, from SMG
Personally I don't think arachnodium semps need webbing I think it is a genetic classification, most have webbing but I don't think all have it...i could be wrong.
Julia did you accidentally post same pic for Kramer's and Spangle? They look the same even bloom placement
Anyway very pretty! Thumbs up

Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Sep 11, 2017 7:03 PM CST
Yep, I sure did! *Blush* I'll fix later.
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Sep 11, 2017 7:05 PM CST
Good cause I want to see Spangle, never heard of that one and I like the name!!
I tip my hat to you.

Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Sep 12, 2017 12:11 AM CST
It's all in the book Lynn. Can you wait?

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 12, 2017 9:18 AM CST

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Hurray! Hurray!
It's in the book. Hurray! Hurray!
I can't wait to get my hands and eyes on that book. The book of the century for all of us semp lovers. Hurray! Big Grin
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Sep 12, 2017 9:22 AM CST
Up date on book, is it still going to be available around Christmas time? Yep need that book, excited about this.
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Sep 12, 2017 1:21 PM CST
It may be available for PURCHASE but not delivery at Xmas. Will keep you informed.

The ads are approved now and I've sent out the list of vendors that will get a special price and a few of you that will get special reviewer's copies before the book hits the general public.

It is going to be $35 and 220 pages. I could have written another 200 but I think this will whet most appetites and not overwhelm first time readers. Also this will keep the cost manageable.

Kevin
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Sep 12, 2017 1:49 PM CST
Happy dance all over the place! Hurray! Hurray! You can always do a sequel!
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