Texas Gardening forum: Houston Aerial Spraying TODAY, THURSDAY 9/14

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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 14, 2017 8:26 AM CST
It starts this evening. Though i admit, the mosquitoes have been baaaaad, and I've waged my own chemical war against them. But the research I've done on the aerial chemical Dibrom is NOT good. It kills live mosquitoes only at the time of spraying and according to some articles are ineffective in the overall mosquito population. It remains in the air for 4 days. It does nothing to eggs and the larva.


Im not a reactionary. Im a generally healthy, active, middle-aged gal. But I'm taking action to remain that way. I do understand that our immune systems weaken as we age. So why take the chance this late in the game, right?

So weighing it out in my pea brain, West Nile Virus, Zika et al vs Chemical Neurotoxicity and cancer, I'd rather take my risk with the mosquities and using safe repellants. But we have no choice. Spraying starts this evening at dusk and includes our area.

Dibrom kills mosquities as well as beneficial insects, swallowtail butterfly. It is highly toxic to lake fish, trout, catfish, etc. Toxic to birds. It affects certain fruits and vegetable plants.
http://www.wtv-zone.com/infcho...

Im taking general precautions, tarping my fish pond and citrus trees. Im turning down the a/c to cool the house then turning it off at dusk (I own big parrots) and staying indoors. Taking similar precautions as suggested to those who didnt evacuate the plastics/peroxide plant that exploded 18 miles away 10 days ago.
ago.
It may be all for naught (like H. Harvey preps) but I'll feel better knowing Im in control of my good health.

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Name: Rj
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crawgarden
Sep 14, 2017 10:03 AM CST
Good precautions you suggested.

Latest info from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/zika/vecto...
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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 14, 2017 1:30 PM CST
Thank you for this @crawgarden. sigh
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tx_flower_child
Sep 15, 2017 8:03 PM CST
Sorry that I missed this yesterday. It sounds like you took the most precautions that you could.

Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 15, 2017 8:26 PM CST
They were out spraying again tonight. The winds could make it travel a mile. I turned off the a/c quickly. But unfortunately, I took the tarp off the pond and trees. sigh D'Oh! I didn't realize they would be here in our area more than one day?? Their description said, 'this may take more than a day'. Now we are told spraying from 14th-20th? smh
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tx_flower_child
Sep 16, 2017 12:30 AM CST
Yep. That's definitely a bummer. If it's not one thing than it's another. Hang in there. We're all rooting for ya.
Name: Kristi
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pod
Sep 17, 2017 8:44 AM CST
Cheryl ~ apologies for showing my ignorance but why do you turn off the a/c? Mine doesn't pull in fresh air and the house is well sealed. Just curious...

The gov't plays a balancing act between controlling these diseases which will cost the healthcare system or creating problems which will cost the healthcare system. That is why I like a rural area... my fault, my responsibility. Problem solved!

Be content moving inch by inch because, by days end, the inches, will add up to feet and yards.

Fulfilling ambitious objectives is usually done one step at a time.
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tx_flower_child
Sep 17, 2017 11:44 AM CST
I was going to ask the same question about the a.c.

Gotta run but more later about the warnings we get. Lock up the kids and pets! But there's more.
Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 18, 2017 9:38 PM CST
IDK @pod When the Arkema chemical spill, fire and explosions happened 2 weeks ago, they told those who remained sheltered in place and did not evacuate, to turn off their a/c. I tried to google why myself. But turned the a/c down a few hours to cool the house then just turned it off at dusk when they were planning to spray. Chemical is chemical, right? I don't trust Monsanto chemicals and protected myself the best I could.
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tx_flower_child
Sep 19, 2017 7:54 AM CST
Oh, I forgot. I was going to copy over what we are told to do, besides lock up the kids and pets, when spraying is done here. That means I'll actually have to get up and walk into my 'office' to use my computer instead of lounging around using my phone. But given how silly the instructions are, I do want to share.
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tx_flower_child
Sep 19, 2017 8:13 AM CST
I've been thinking about fleas and mosquitoes. (itching already?) I remember when I was a kid that we used to hear about flea circuses. Like most kids, I was fascinated. I couldn't imagine such a thing. Anyone else ever hear of them? Maybe the adults we're putting us on. Except I sorta remember seeing ads for them in the back covers of comic books (another clue?). I love the idea of seeing little fleas in costumes and doing tricks. Now I'm thinking we ought to have skeeter circuses. Make them earn their keep!

So anyway, guess I'd better wash my face, brush the teeth and take my vitamins before I come up with any more harebrained ideas.
Name: Kristi
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pod
Sep 19, 2017 8:35 AM CST
Now I'm thinking we ought to have skeeter circuses. Make them earn their keep!

Since Harvey, we have had Boone & Crockett sized mosquitoes. You could easily have put costumes on these guys. Whistling
Be content moving inch by inch because, by days end, the inches, will add up to feet and yards.

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tx_flower_child
Sep 19, 2017 5:48 PM CST
Here's the warning that we get about spraying. Notice what it says about air conditioning, although it only applies to cars. But that's why I would think you should keep your a.c. on in the house.

"While the insecticide is approved by the Environmental Protection Agency for treatment, residents in the above areas should avoid contact with the spray by staying indoors. Persons inside a vehicle while trucks are actively spraying should remain in their vehicles with the windows up and the air conditioner on until the trucks pass and the spray is no longer visible. Persons out during the scheduled spraying time should be alert for trucks and should not follow them. Residents who come in contact with the spray are advised to wash the affected area thoroughly with soap and water. The spray breaks down quickly in the presence of sunlight and has no residual effect."

Right.
Name: Cheryl
Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 19, 2017 6:47 PM CST
Ours was aerial spraying not trucks. It came down like a mist, so I'm told. Some people smelled it. There were little league games going on, etc. We got very little notice or details. they told us 'if you are sensative to chemicals stay indoors'. Whaaat?! The second night of spraying surprised me.
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Frillylily
Sep 19, 2017 6:55 PM CST
sounds like they throwing the baby out w the bathwater. Grumbling
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tx_flower_child
Sep 19, 2017 8:14 PM CST
Yes, I knew you had spray coming down like rain. Just thought I'd share what we get. Or I should say what some of us get. Even tho I'm on the email list, it doesn't get sent out until 5 pm with scheduled start time at 9 pm. So I try to check my email in time to forward the notice to close to 10,000 households that I can contact through Nextdoor Neighborhood.

So anyway, don't you love how they tell us what chemical is being used?

Little league games? Geesh. And I bet the kids were happy to be playing ball after all the flooding. Well, that's our government at work. Good intentions and all.
Name: Cheryl
Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 19, 2017 9:07 PM CST
OMG! They're spraying AGAIN!! A C-130 flew LOOOOW! I WISH they would tell us how often and how long this will last. My poor fish pond. Here, they are using Naled/dibrom. Google it. It's just a little bit of cancer is all. Shrug! Kills bees, butterflies, geese, and tons of beneficial bugs. There isn't a LoveBug around any more. But there are mosquitoes! sheesh! I hate this!! I didn't over my citrus again either! I am going to sprout horns!
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tx_flower_child
Sep 19, 2017 10:26 PM CST
I am so sorry. You all have been through enough without being sprayed with poison as well. I think you should cover everything you have left every evening. And then take some drugs.

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