Tropicals forum: Musella lasiocarpa

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Name: Paul Anguiano
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Sep 18, 2017 1:48 PM CST
Does anyone know how long it takes for the seed to mature in M. lasiocarpa? These tend to bloom mid-summer for me each year, but I'd like to try collecting the seed from the little fruits this year (clearly visible in the bloom on the left, but in the bloom on the right the viable fruit is already buried under the petals).

I may need to set up additional cold protection if it's going to take a long time.

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Sep 18, 2017 6:29 PM CST
Paul, what lovely bloom photos of the Chinese Yellow Banana (Musella lasiocarpa) I don't grow that plant so I have no idea about seed maturity but two members who have photos in the database @Bubbles and @gingin may be able to offer advice.
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Name: Sandi
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Bubbles
Sep 18, 2017 7:45 PM CST

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Sorry, I never collected seeds.
Name: Alice
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ardesia
Sep 19, 2017 7:15 AM CST
I have never grown that one either but it seems like the seeds would be fertilized early on and the fruit should ripen not long after the flower dies. Can you remove the flower as it matures and see what is underneath?
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Name: Paul Anguiano
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Sep 19, 2017 8:56 AM CST
The "flower" never really matures. Like most bananas, each petal folds back revealing a set of female flowers on the ends of what will become the fruit. Eventually, the flowers thus revealed become sterile and won't produce fruit. Theoretically, male flowers will come next, but I've never looked for them on M. lasiocarpa. These petals will keep folding back until the banana runs out of energy, but in my experience the stalk will lose its leaves and start to deteriorate before the top flower stops in Musella. On an edible banana (Musa spp.) I would normally cut the flower stalk off at some point.
Name: Carter Mayer
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Oct 22, 2017 8:58 AM CST
I dint remember how long it took for the little bananas on mine to ripen, but they’ll get mushy and then you’ll find little black pebble-sized seeds inside.
Name: Paul Anguiano
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Oct 23, 2017 1:06 AM CST
Yes, that's the advice I'd been given (let it go to mush and then fish out the hard black seeds), but since I have to deal with cold around around here I was hoping for a better time estimate. I expect a hard frost any time in the next month. The stalks on these are finally deteriorating, but slowly, and the flowers show no signs of stopping. I think I may dissect one to see what kind of meristem it has, and check out the condition of the fruit, and then make a decision about what to do with the other one that's still blooming.

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