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tx_flower_child
Sep 18, 2017 5:12 PM CST
Any suggestions for keeping squirrels and birds away from veggies?
I want to try growing some easy veggies in containers. Past experience (in a different city) found that a lot of tomatoes ended up with holes that birds made in them. And I still remember the eggplant that a squirrel took a bite out of and promptly spit it out.

Mostly will grow greens for now but am dreaming of tomatoes next year.

Any advice other than a shotgun?
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
Sep 18, 2017 5:57 PM CST
A green house, or at least a hoop house? I don't have to deal with chipmunks, but the birds and the various worms got mine early, then the weird weather pretty much wiped out what was left.
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tx_flower_child
Sep 18, 2017 6:41 PM CST
Appreciate the advice @ctcarol. I don't have a greenhouse but will research whether a hoop house would work. The main reason that I want to start small by growing in containers is to be able to move them around as the sun changes due to the seasons.
I have a lot of trees but think maybe (cross fingers) they'll start shedding soon. I'm already getting hit by falling acorns!
I've never used any kind of netting before. Wonder if that would help.
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
Sep 18, 2017 7:22 PM CST
I hear you about the container growing. I have the same issues with sun and weather. Netting might work if you can anchor it to keep the chipmunks from getting under it.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Sep 20, 2017 10:13 AM CST
Hi there 😁
The plastic owls work great !
BUTT !!! You MUST !!! Move them around garden, at least every other day. Or , animals get use to them never moving, and egnore them. Wild animals, instinctively know an owl. Mine has a head that swings back and forth in the wind. Not necessary, i think swinging head is more for people's amusement. Just the site of an owl, and the wild animal is gone. " I ain't gonna hang around , to see if it moves. "
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tveguy3
Sep 20, 2017 12:00 PM CST
Birds don't seem to bother mine ever. Woodchucks, not that's a different story.
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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Newyorkrita
Sep 20, 2017 12:45 PM CST
Sometimes I find they simply wanted and needed water. So I keep a saucer of fresh water always nearby.
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Weedwhacker
Sep 20, 2017 6:18 PM CST
Hardware cloth? You could make a cylinder of it around the container, and then pinch it closed on the top.
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Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
Sep 20, 2017 8:08 PM CST
That's a great idea! I used it around the bottom of my shed to keep the critters from setting up homes.
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piksihk
Sep 21, 2017 1:12 PM CST
My DH said a squirrel just chewed off a baby papaya and took off with it :
Angry It jumped from the pecan tree and onto the papaya tree just is over 7 ft. This is my first papaya grown from seed and it has several baby papayas. We have millions of these critters; they steal my pecans and hide them in my pots digging up the plants. There are pecan trees everywhere since this area was a former pecan plantation. They can get the pecans but not my papayas! We've only been in this home for 2 yrs.
What to do besides covering each fruit...
Suggestions please.

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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Sep 21, 2017 1:31 PM CST
I don't know if a net like the one I used on my peach tree to keep birds off would help at all, since they could climb up from the bottom. That must be a squirrel heaven with all the pecans. Maybe try live trapping a bunch to reduce the population some. They get into my chicken's feeder and eat that all the time here.
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tx_flower_child
Sep 21, 2017 10:25 PM CST
The problem with live trapping squirrels is that you have to find a place to take them. It has to be at least a state away or they'll come right back. If they can't or don't come back, then you have another problem. Other squirrels will move in.

Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Weedwhacker
Sep 22, 2017 7:36 AM CST
I would think even more so if you live where there are lots of nut trees...
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tx_flower_child
Sep 22, 2017 11:28 PM CST
Bingo! I have 2 large red oaks and one neighbor also has 2. I'm just glad that the acorns are much smaller than last year. They really hurt when they'd fall or get tossed on your head. Interestingly tho, it does say something about the weather patterns but I'm not sure what. Aside from being smaller, they also started dropping much earlier this year. (Just the acorns, not the leaves.)

I just wish those dang squirrels would remember where they planted their nuts. (not a typo.) They dig up my container plants just to have a look see.
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Sep 23, 2017 12:54 PM CST
When I was a kid my dad would go squirrel hunting and my mother would cook them. They were pretty good actually if I remember rightly. Haven't eaten any in decades. Grey squirrels were pretty rare in the far North of our state back then.
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Sep 24, 2017 5:04 PM CST
Yo there Tom. 😁😁😁
Yep !😜! Tree squirrels are tasty !
I wish there were lots of them in mountain's around hear.

Were gonna get shamed on !

Shooting and eating poor cute little squirrels.

Of course, they don't think of the cute little animals they eat.
Cows, pigs, lambs, etc.
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