Plant ID forum: Aloe brevifolia?

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Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Sep 23, 2017 7:18 AM CST
I am not sure this was labeled correctly. These leaves are well over a foot long. Your thoughts? TIA!
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Baja_Costero
Sep 23, 2017 9:59 AM CST
That is a tree aloe, not Aloe brevifolia, which has almost no stem. Where did you see the plant? Was there perhaps some low groundcover aloe underneath to which the tag corresponds?

Without a picture of the flowers it will probably be hard to get closer than this for an ID.

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purpleinopp
Sep 23, 2017 12:25 PM CST
TYVM for your input! There were no other plants nearby, spotted at a tropical conservatory house @ Huntington Museum of Art in Huntington, WV. The difference between the specimen in question and the pics I saw in a very brief search looked much more distinct than difference in cultural conditions/location. It is not important at all to try to determine species if it's obviously not A. brevifolia. It's not a well-lit pic and I have no other angles. I am not even sure of the genus if it does not match that tag.
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plantladylin
Sep 23, 2017 1:06 PM CST
It sure is a beauty, whichever it turns out to be!! I'm curious about their spelling of the name "Spinney Aloe" and wondered if they meant Uitenhage Aloe (Aloe africana) but it doesn't look like the photos in our database of Spiny Aloe (A. africana).
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Baja_Costero
Sep 23, 2017 2:48 PM CST
It's probably not Aloe africana, though I suppose it could be a hybrid (even that I doubt). Given some variability, there are much spinier aloes than africana (in the ballpark of tree aloes you might see much more spines on ferox or marlothii)... not sure where that common name came from, but it's not one I'm familiar with. The spiniest aloe I know of with that type of leaves is probably aculeata (so-called prickly aloe, at least by some) though aculeata does not grow a stem to speak of.

In any case africana is really easy to identify based on its flowers, which are usually bicolored (orange/red turning to yellow when they open) and have a distinctive upturned shape which is unique to the species and its hybrids. Here is an africana hybrid (presumed) in bloom at the moment with the color scheme I was talking about. If you look closely, you can see the individual flowers curve upward around the time they open.

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Aloe africana is also interesting among tree aloes in flowering in any season, not just winter or one limited period like many others. Among a reasonable-sized group of plants like the dozen seedlings I planted out a few years ago, you're basically guaranteed somebody will be flowering at any given time.
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purpleinopp
Sep 23, 2017 4:46 PM CST
TYVM, Lin!

Baja, how interesting! I am so glad I asked about the mystery plant. This discussion is apparently a perfect home for it, causing enjoyment with its' mysteriousness. :+)
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plantladylin
Sep 23, 2017 4:54 PM CST
Baja, that is an amazing photo!
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Baja_Costero
Sep 23, 2017 5:23 PM CST
Thank you for the acorns and the kind words. Mystery is motivating to me.

Those aloes are endlessly entertaining to take pictures of when they flower. Each one is different and they all have their own twist. Like the literal twist on the end of the inflorescences above, which that one plant (only) seems to do every time. One of its siblings flowering a year ago...

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Another sibling recently with its own colors...

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And flower detail here (note the red lips on them when they open)...



Now I'm starting to doubt myself about the original plant and maybe it is africana... but the flowers would be the real confirmation.
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purpleinopp
Sep 24, 2017 6:02 AM CST
Fantastic! This is a good spot to have a front-row seat...!
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