Trees and Shrubs forum: where can i get some osage orange?

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muffin
Sep 23, 2017 2:18 PM CST
I am in Canada, in Ontario, and want some Osage Orange seeds or cuttings...I bought seeds from a "company"and had terrible success...planted hundreds of seeds this year, got ZERO to grow! I am not a novice to seed starting, but am deeply disappointed that I got nothing for my money/time/effort! I want to grow Osage for the reason it was grown in the past...to make hedgerows to keep livestock in.
Name: Mac
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McCannon
Sep 23, 2017 2:36 PM CST
Osage Orange is commonly referred to as hedge, or bois d'arc/bodark (bow wood) around here. I don't know of anyone that sells hedge apples and wasn't aware that it would grow as far north as Canada. Most of the trees in this area are found along the creeks. They grow about a foot per year in our climate. We burn it in the wood stove.
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Sep 24, 2017 5:06 PM CST
Here, they grow at the edges of fields that haven't been mowed down all the way to the drainage ditches along the roads. Usually we see the chartreuse green fruits laying on the ground. I believe germination is a little tricky (if I remember right) but I don't know the specifics - only that they tended to germinate after going through an ancient creature's digestive tract.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
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McCannon
Sep 24, 2017 5:53 PM CST
And they are thorny as all get out! In the realm of firewood, hedge has the highest BTU rating of any hardwood in the US. Some archers collect the limbs (bow wood) to make authentic archery bows, just like the indigenous Indians that lived in the mid-west.
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Sep 24, 2017 7:24 PM CST
It also makes durable fence posts, but I don't know where you could go to buy the tree.
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Sep 25, 2017 6:57 AM CST
muffin - I read a couple of things that hinted that osage orange needs stratification. Are the seeds still in place where you planted them?
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
Cat Lover Birds Hummingbirder Butterflies Frogs and Toads Vermiculture
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McCannon
Sep 25, 2017 7:41 AM CST
This "how to grow" article seems to indicate the need for stratification: http://www.newsleader.com/stor...
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Name: Tom Cagle
SE-OH (Zone 6a)
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Coppice
Sep 30, 2017 4:25 AM CST
I cold stratified my seed. See also wintersown. Here and on the net.
free for them in need:
http://need4seed.freeforums.ne...
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Oct 11, 2017 6:29 PM CST
When I started my trees, I collected fallen fruit from a tree that I spotted in town... took them home and kept them in a bucket over the winter (outside).
Eventually the bucket filled with rain water and the fruit softened.
I mashed everything with a potato masher or something, and dumped the slurry in trenches.

I had so many seedlings come up as to not be believed...
Unfortunately, I got busy with other stuff, and didn't get the trees moved...
they're still growing, and producing their own fruit.

A year or two later, i planted two more balls in another section of the garden.
I got like twenty trees out of one clump.
I moved them where I wanted...
And... Its so dry here... most died.

So much for a fencerow here in the sandhills...
sucks that they only grow in the garden... and the black walnuts too...

Anyway...
not hard to start... if you can find a source of ripe fruit.
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
Cat Lover Birds Hummingbirder Butterflies Frogs and Toads Vermiculture
Critters Allowed Vegetable Grower Canning and food preservation Annuals Morning Glories Sedums
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McCannon
Oct 11, 2017 6:57 PM CST
No response from the OP.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Oct 11, 2017 7:24 PM CST
I grow Osage Orange as a rootstock for grafting Che on. They do need to either be winter sown or put through a cold moist stratification for 3 months before germinating.
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muffin
Oct 14, 2017 11:09 AM CST
I did the cold stratification even, think the seed was just dead seed Sad still looking for fresh seed!
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
Cat Lover Birds Hummingbirder Butterflies Frogs and Toads Vermiculture
Critters Allowed Vegetable Grower Canning and food preservation Annuals Morning Glories Sedums
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McCannon
Oct 14, 2017 12:06 PM CST
@muffin Out of curiosity, where did you find seed?
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muffin
Oct 14, 2017 4:39 PM CST
I bought from a seed supplier

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