Ask a Question forum: Pelee Mum in NY... no flowers yet.... what gives?

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Turbosaurus
Oct 3, 2017 12:04 PM CST
I know these are typically sold as annuals. I came across three of them at a super market around November last year. When spring came and they were still alive (miracle of miracles), I put them into a big pot on a sunny deck where they have exploded all summer but Im starting to get nervous becasue I don't see any buds yet.

Have I wasted all this time? Is there a temperature or daylight change that sends them into bloom? (its been warm here for this time of year- but night time temps dip into 50s) What gives?
Name: Christine
Saugerties, NY zone 5a
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Christine
Oct 4, 2017 6:39 AM CST
Did you prune the mums in July?
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Oct 4, 2017 11:29 AM CST
I'm not sure what triggers them, the cold, or short days. Alls i knows is its to early.
Be patient. You'll get your rewards !
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Give em some empson salts. Just for kicks. It wont hurt em. It did wonders for my Lions Tail, thats blooming a second time this year.
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Turbosaurus
Oct 5, 2017 4:52 PM CST
Hi philip, I'll put some epsom salts - I usually water with collected rain water so everyone could probably use some magnesium

Christine,
...I'm afraid I see where you're going... you think I pinched off the blommin' parts? say it aint so... I'm sure I was still pinching it back in July. I don't really prune- I just wander around the garden each morning with my coffee to see whats what, who needs water and dead head or pinch the tips of leggy branches with my finger nails. In other words I didn't top the whole plant in July... and besides, there are four quart sized plants I combined into one giant planter- I couldn't have wrecked them all, could i? (I don't know why I'm incredulous after all the times I have wrecked all of everything D'Oh! )
Could it be hopeless for this season?
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Christine
Oct 6, 2017 5:57 AM CST
Turbo, you've done everything right, try the epsom salt, that just may be your cure. A lot of my plants didnt do so well this summer, our weather wasnt the greatest, to say the least. My mums, I tried saving over the winter, up and died on me, so today I'm forcing Rolling on the floor laughing myself to go to my favorite nursery to buy a beautiful new one nodding
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Turbosaurus
Oct 6, 2017 6:27 AM CST
You poor thing... a trip to the nursery to buy plants. what a chore!

I am not going to give up! Even if I have to bring this giant planter inside and nurse it till Christmas! I found an old post on another forum that said you should give them their last prune in June, ~100 days before you want them to bloom... So if I was still pinching the first week of August 1st I should have flowers sometime in the next 2-3 weeks.

I'm not convinced it was pinching that did it given there were 3-4 pots, and each pot had 2-3 smaller plants- all 8-10 of them are in the same condition- no blooms. Its got to be environmental or nutrients or something...

It was really late in the season when I found them last year - it was around thanksgiving I think- I wonder if they're on the same schedule as last year (wishful thinking!)
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Oct 6, 2017 7:34 AM CST
Your to much Turbo. : have to go to nursery to buy plants !!!
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Leave them outside as long as you can. They need the cold and short days to bud.
Maybe outside year round. See there cold tolerence in learning library.

Quit beating yourself up ! Your not ! WISHFUL THINKING ! That you found them at Thanksgiving time. There a holiday flower. They just need somemore outside time. Cold and short days, so they can get there holiday spirit on. ๐Ÿ˜
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Turbosaurus
Oct 7, 2017 6:56 PM CST
I'm just afraid of that first frost.... We're having maybe the longest Indian summer of my whole life- still regularly hits mid 80s in So. NY so I'll keep an eye on the weather and hope for the best.

Pelee aren't as winter hardy as the traditional cushion mums, and they're not in the ground - in a pot they may freeze solid - and what am I talking about??!! I don't care about surviving the winter- I want the pay off for keeping them healthy for the last 10 months! THEY OWE ME! Lol.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Oct 8, 2017 1:02 PM CST
They owe you !#!#! ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž LMAO !
Ten months ! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Oh gosh, buddy. Still got another month or two to wait. ๐Ÿ˜ฃ๐Ÿ˜ณ
My moneys still on them blooming for you Thumbs up .
Just bring them in if freezing, then back out.
Oh ! Give them a dressing of Epsom Salt. Thumbs up
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