Daylilies forum: What's going on?

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Name: Catherine Moll
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dixiebelle426
Oct 8, 2017 1:11 PM CST
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I have been watching this and other seedlings for a week, and nothing, so today I decided that it was dead, not sure what happened, to much water? I have found several like this, that started to grow, and stopped, the seed is mush now. I still have several trays with nothing happening and it's been 3 weeks, could I be keeping the soil to wet? I have the window opened today blowing in warm air in hopes of drying the soil out some. I am thinking of taking them out of the starter trays and putting them into something else with more soil to balance out the moisture in the soil, or it might be to late for them. I water them every few days with a spray bottle for now.

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I also have some that the leaves are falling over, and some that are turning yellow. I had to bring them back inside, since we are getting so much rain from Hurricane Nate.


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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Oct 8, 2017 1:42 PM CST
We only got an inch and a half of rain! I left my seedlings out in the weather but the wind and the rain from Nate did not seem to bother them, in fact I had two more cups show some new sprouts when I checked.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Oct 8, 2017 2:43 PM CST
They do look as if they could be too wet, but I would not mist them regardless. It's better if you can water from the bottom (set the containers in trays and pour the water into the tray so that they can take it up through the drainage holes).

It's also possible that the seeds have viability issues, or dormancy issues or something else. How deep were they planted and what are they planted in, it does not look like commercial seed starting mix?
Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Oct 8, 2017 2:58 PM CST
I had some like that too for the first time this year. They were seeds that sprouted in the pod. Typically they all do fine but not this year. Not sure what it is about this year but everything is wonky. I wouldn't worry too much.
Name: Catherine Moll
Ga. (Zone 8b)
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dixiebelle426
Oct 8, 2017 3:08 PM CST
@Seedfork
Was not sure what nate was gonna do, so I brought them in end of last week, ahead of all the rain. Congrats on ur new sprouts.

@sooby
It's peat moss and potting soil, I am attaching photos. Also with some perlite. I am gonna leave the window up as much as I can, and I moved the fan, so it is blowing on them.
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Name: Catherine Moll
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dixiebelle426
Oct 8, 2017 3:09 PM CST
Depth is about 1/4 inch
Name: Sue
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sooby
Oct 8, 2017 5:19 PM CST
The depth is OK, I'm not sure about the potting mix. It looks to have chunks of wood in it, and says it has enough fertilizer for four months. I looked at a few reviews of it on the web and several people don't seem impressed with it. I have not used it myself. Next time you might try germinating them in just peat moss and perlite, or vermiculite. Ideally you would have little or no fertilizer in a seed starting mix, and I'm not sure that the bits of wood are a good thing for seed starting. Not sure what else might be in it.
Name: Ken
East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
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CaliFlowers
Oct 8, 2017 5:47 PM CST
About 50/50 peat and perlite works pretty well for me. Peat can hold a lot of water, so can perlite. I sift my perlite using a 1/16" screen to eliminate the dust and extra fine particles. Taller containers are better for drainage—the lower regions of a pot or tray are always soggy, sometimes near-anaerobic. You don't want daylily roots near those kind of conditions until they become established–meaning that the roots are filling the pot to the point where they will suck up the saucer water inside of 24 hours.

Could also be that it was a little too warm. I have the most trouble with seeds started too early in the fall.

To add to Sue's comment, most bagged mixes contain ground/chipped wood these days, probably because many municipalities are running their own yard waste recycling programs. Ground wood is bad news for horticultural uses. Bark is a far better substrate ingredient, but hard to find.
Name: Catherine Moll
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dixiebelle426
Oct 9, 2017 7:29 AM CST
All of these was planting the same time, they was all in the frig for the same amount of time, they all have the same mix of peat moss, soil, and perlite I have some that are doing great.
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Name: Catherine Moll
Ga. (Zone 8b)
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dixiebelle426
Oct 11, 2017 7:06 AM CST
Yesterday I found white mold is one of my planters that had about 30 seedlings in it, so I decided to move those seedlings to another pot with fresh soil. I also found about 20 seedlings that had just started rotting, at the soil line, so I threw all of those away. Hoping the ones I moved, will survive. The next few days will tell the truth of they will live or die. Sighing!
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Name: Nikki
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Oct 11, 2017 1:13 PM CST
Sorry to hear that, Catherine.

Fingers crossed that they survive. Crossing Fingers!

My biggest worry at the moment is the number of snails and slugs
in the garden as a result of all the rain we are having. The numbers have just exploded this year.

Luckily so far they seem more interested in the bird food with the exception of two leaves which they chewed off on Victorian Violet which is new in this year and still quite small. Seem to have left it alone since then though.

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