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OzMeredith
Oct 8, 2017 9:03 PM CST
Hi, I have grown this succulent from very small. I don't know what it is ( was told it is quite rare) but recently it seems to have this threadlike pattern through many of the leaves. Could it be a worm??
I live in Brisbane , Australia and we have just come out of a dry winter. It has been outside all the time in a pot. Never below 6 degrees centigrade.The threadlike patterns I only noticed in the last couple of weeks when the weather became warmer. It also rained quite a bit over a few days two weeks ago.
In the attached photo are three leaves I vut off in the hope of stopping a spread to new leaves
Any ideas what it is and remedies?
Many thanks
Oz Meredith

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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 8, 2017 9:26 PM CST
Welcome!

Maybe Leaf Miners? The larval form of an insect (it may be a fly or a moth) spends its youth crawling around and eating leaves from the inside out.

I'd love to see a photo of the whole plant.
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OzMeredith
Oct 8, 2017 10:27 PM CST
Thanks Daisy1
This photo was taken back on early September. It has doubled in size since then but nearly every leaf is affected.
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 9, 2017 10:12 AM CST
Your plant is a Kalanchoe. I'm not sure what's wrong with it. Are the plants around affected? I would move this one until you figure out what's happening.

If it is a leaf miner, treating the plant won't help as they are on the inside of the leaf. It looks like the new growth is affected. Try giving it a bath in warm soapy water - get all the nooks and cranies. If its something like aphids, you will see an immediate improvement.
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Oct 9, 2017 2:19 PM CST
Interesting??? I'll get ya some help, with our cati gerue !
HAY THERE !!! BAJA !!! @bajacastro, come on down !
Oz, needs your help !!!
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Philipwonel
Oct 9, 2017 2:49 PM CST
OPPS ! Spelt name wrong D'Oh!
@Baja_Costero. Help !!! Oz needs your help !!!
Right above.
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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Oct 9, 2017 3:02 PM CST
Daisy has given some excellent advice. I also suspect insect involvement but that's just a guess. It's probably best to remove the affected parts and quarantine.

If there's only a little bit left after removing the affected leaves, you could try cutting off the rosette at the very end of the stem and rooting it somewhere else, to give the healthy part a fresh start. The plant may also grow easily from healthy leaves. You would want to start a cutting or leaves in a relatively protected place, ideally in bright shade or maybe with some filtered light.
Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Oct 9, 2017 3:39 PM CST
I agree with both Daisy and Baja.
I'm wondering 😕??? After you do all that, you give them a drink of neem oil solution ???
It won't hurt !
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OzMeredith
Oct 9, 2017 4:05 PM CST
Thanks Daisy, Phillip and Baja

I quarantined it yesterday.
None of the surrounding plants were affected.
I suspect the two culprits. On closer inspection it seems there could be something aphid like on the outside but there are also white bumps internally, possibly the larvae.

Will take the advice of all three but will I cut the healthy rosette off before treating with soapy water? There is no infestation at this point.
And should I use a small paint brush to ensure the soapy solution gets in all the nooks and crannies?
Am waiting for Neem oil delivery

Thank You! I tip my hat to you.
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Baja_Costero
Oct 9, 2017 8:45 PM CST
I would use a spray bottle from all different angles before you take the cutting. Let it drip and drain, then cut cleanly with a sharp blade. Allow the cut end to heal for a few days and then spray it again for good measure, since you can hit every side including beneath.

And wait until a day or two after watering, when the plant is most pumped up, to take the cutting. It will be relying on those water reserves while it is rootless.
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purpleinopp
Oct 12, 2017 8:17 AM CST
The plant looks like Kalanchoe/Bryophyllum laetivirens, specifically:
Mother of Thousands (Kalanchoe laetivirens)
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