Roses forum: May Queen

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Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Plant and/or Seed Trader Cat Lover Dog Lover Roses Ferns
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quercusnut
Oct 21, 2017 7:38 AM CST
I've had May Queen for probably 25 years at least. It's one of the toughest iron-clads I have. Easy to propagate by sticking cuttings in the ground in winter.
Anyway. I've never seen it rebloom until this year. Not like in spring. Very few blooms and atypical. Makes me wonder if I've had an incorrectly IDed rose.
Anyone know if this is possible? I'd like to post this pic in the database but want to be sure.
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
Oct 21, 2017 8:11 AM CST
I don't know the answer.

I would note, however, that the breeding of May Queen has some similarity with the breeding of Dr Walter Van Fleet, the once blooming climber from which New Dawn, the repeat flowering climber sported. An important distinction is that May Queen is half R. wichurana and New Dawn is only one quarter. More importantly, New Dawn has two remontant parents, but May Queen has just one. So on one hand we have a rule that makes repeat flowering of May Queen out of the question. And on the other hand we have a case of a sibling that has sported from once-flowering to repeat flowering (also, not possible). Perhaps the genetics of R. wichurana are a little more complicated wrt repeat flowering than our simple rules suggest.

Or maybe it is indeed a different rose. ... I would say that your photo and the photos of May Queen at HMF seem to depict a different flower. I notice a very pronounced button eye in most of the photos of May Queen at HMF; but I cannot make out the same feature in the flower above.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
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porkpal
Oct 21, 2017 7:17 PM CST
I have several once-blooming roses that began to repeat after they became quite old. Lady Banks and Seven Sisters immediately come to mind. Whatever that may mean...
Porkpal
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Oct 21, 2017 8:15 PM CST
If your weather pattern was different this year, it may have triggered your once blooming rose to re-bloom.

For example, if there is a cold spell after the first flush and then normal temps return quickly, it sometimes tricks the rose into thinking ... yeah, they don't think ... that it's spring and time to bloom again.

The recurrent genes are in the rose, but usually are not triggered because the conditions are not right.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Plant and/or Seed Trader Cat Lover Dog Lover Roses Ferns
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quercusnut
Oct 23, 2017 6:41 PM CST
RoseBlush1 said:If your weather pattern was different this year, it may have triggered your once blooming rose to re-bloom.

For example, if there is a cold spell after the first flush and then normal temps return quickly, it sometimes tricks the rose into thinking ... yeah, they don't think ... that it's spring and time to bloom again.

The recurrent genes are in the rose, but usually are not triggered because the conditions are not right.


It has rained here almost non-stop this year. I also have an Iris graminea and Girard's Rose azalea blooming now also. If only every year could be this good. Alas!

Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Plant and/or Seed Trader Cat Lover Dog Lover Roses Ferns
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quercusnut
May 15, 2018 3:58 PM CST
Update: This years crop of blooms from May Queen.








Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
May 15, 2018 5:03 PM CST
Glorious!
Porkpal
Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Plant and/or Seed Trader Cat Lover Dog Lover Roses Ferns
Hostas Foliage Fan Bromeliad Heucheras Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
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quercusnut
May 15, 2018 5:26 PM CST
May Queen is a beautiful monster. That plant was just a cutting stuck in the ground years ago. Now she spreads by rooting branch tips. She gets no special care and she means to take over my driveway.

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