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Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Oct 31, 2017 11:07 AM CST
Today I got a new clivia. I tried to read up on as much information as possible with care and culture but I had a question? The mix it's in looks pretty heavy and I was wondering if I should wait until Spring to put it in a better mix or should I do it now? I think it was recently severed from the main plant, and the guy that sold it to me said it should flower next year. Here's a picture of it, pardon the surrounding mess. I have it near a south facing window, which is pretty much the sunniest part of my house. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Hamwild
Oct 31, 2017 11:24 AM CST
@tarev, any advice? I know yours always look beautiful.
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Deryll
Oct 31, 2017 3:22 PM CST
Clivia roots are huge, and they will soon fill a pot to where there is no soil left. They are an easy plant to grow
and I keep mine in a slightly shaded area outdoors as long as it is above freezing. Clivia leaves stay green
unlike an Amaryllis. Mine has completely filled a 5 gallon pot several times, and I have had to use an axe to
cut it apart when it gets to the point where the pot will no longer hold enough soil to water it properly. There
in Texas, I would think you would be able to keep it outdoors most of the year, even to the point of being able
to plant it out in the yard... depending on where you are of course. To repot them, a single plant like yours
will simply slide out and you will plant the root mass undisturbed into a larger pot. They multiply easily!

The next year after it blooms, the seeds will turn red and begin to fall off the flower stalk. Leave them at
the top of the soil and a root will begin to emerge and will go down into the soil to form a single new plant.
Planting the seed pod under the soil will often cause them to rot very quickly, and it will die. Have fun!
Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Oct 31, 2017 3:36 PM CST
Thanks Deryll. I can't believe you have to use an axe to divide yours. I may place mine outside tomorrow because we'll be in the 80s the next several days. Today was only 57 with a little rain. I was worried about putting it outside today so it's indoors now. I love north of Dallas so we can get pretty cold. Sometimes we have an occasional snowstorm or ice storm but winters can sometimes be mild. I'll remember that if mine develops seeds. Should I wait until Spring to repot it?
Name: tarev
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tarev
Oct 31, 2017 4:01 PM CST
Hello Cameron, when I first got my Clivia it was towards Fall too, so I repotted it in a very well draining media. The roots of this plant is so thick like noodles, really hates being too soaking wet.

I keep mine indoors by our north facing window during our dry hot months. This Fall I am just a bit delayed in bringing it out. It likes to feel our cool downs here in Fall up to December, keeping it dry when it is cold. Then by January, after the Christmas season, it goes back to its north facing window location. It then blooms here towards late winter.

I took the cue from the Clivias I found growing in San Francisco, though those are planted inground, they are in shade, under canopy of trees, just getting dappled sun.

So if that new plant of yours is mine, I would repot in a very well draining media, positioning it in a cool spot, and if there is an area in your house that gets cold, or if you can safely bring it outdoors in a dappled sun area, let it feel the cool temps of Fall and early winter, so it can nicely bloom in late winter to early spring.
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Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Oct 31, 2017 4:25 PM CST
Thanks so much for the advice and information Tarev. I have quite a few north facing windows but they're shaded by cedar trees. Would that still work? I also have some pine bark fines, could I mix that with some perlite as a soil mix? I have some Osmocote too and I was wondering if I can add that to the mix? We had some chilly temperatures and frosts Saturday and Sunday day but the rest of the week will be in the 80s. This Fall has been so strange this year.
Name: tarev
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tarev
Oct 31, 2017 4:43 PM CST
I am quite bad with fertilizers to be honest. My plants last year got into the 35F to 39F overnight outdoors in my growcamp, got some rain then too, it took it well. I guess there is good airflow around it so it gets to have quicker dry out time. We did not get frost warnings last year, but if you do get frost warnings, better to protect it and bring indoors.

The media I used for mine: cacti mix, with some compost, pumice, some chunky lava rocks and clay rocks, making it very well draining. I have not used bark mix on them, I am worried it might hold more moisture at root zone.

There was a time I also put them both inside our garage, no windows there, and it gets cold there in the 50F to 55F range, but it did not make blooms when repositioned back to its usual north facing window, so I guess it needs more cold temps. The leaves stayed deep green and nice even in the dark.
Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Oct 31, 2017 5:08 PM CST
Wow I didn't know they tolerated temperatures like that? I'll set mine outside but I need to get some lava rocks. I can't find pumice locally unfortunately. I'll just bring mine in if frost is predicted. Sadly in my area I don't have many options for well draining soil ingredients.
Name: tarev
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tarev
Nov 1, 2017 8:38 AM CST
When I was starting with Clivia's, I followed this thread, got really good inputs from other growers and I posted also some updates of my new Clivia then. Hope you can read it as well to help you further with your new Clivia.

We got varying growing areas and weather conditions. Experiences of the other growers helps immensely. Good luck!

The thread "Clivia" in Bulbs forum
Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Nov 1, 2017 8:57 AM CST
Thanks so much Tarev. I had been a long time lurker on that thread. I'll join it now so I can follow it. I re-potted it this morning. I'm really glad I did change the mix because when I dumped it out, it was soaking wet and like mud. I rinsed the roots off because the potting mix was sticky too. I put it in a mix of a little pine bark fines, coarse orchid bark, perlite, and lava rocks. I also drilled more holes on the sides of the pot towards the bottom and put more lava rocks as a top dressing. I feel much better about it in a new well draining mix. Should I give it a little water once the roots settle?
Name: tarev
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tarev
Nov 1, 2017 9:55 AM CST
I think it should be okay to water it thoroughly once, letting all the water drain out, and leave it alone. Think of it like a cool weather loving succulent, less to no water during Fall's cold temps but not needing direct sun at all. It really needs that so it can bloom towards Spring later.

That is one of the things I like about this plant, quite low maintenance, not too water needy.

Name: tarev
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tarev
Nov 1, 2017 10:05 AM CST
Found this interesting article about Clivias: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01...

Very notable to read, the need to give it a dry, cool rest period.
Name: Mary
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Pistil
Nov 1, 2017 10:50 AM CST
The most beautiful clivia I ever saw was a massive specimen that had been owned for 30 years by a lady in Seattle. It was in a very large pot on a table about 20 feet from east-facing windows. The windows took up the entire wall, cathedral ceiling. Particularly in winter, the plant was rather neglected and watered infrequently. I guess what I am saying is they seem to tolerate pretty low light levels. She could not recall when it had been repotted. Seattle is really far north (north of Maine) so particularly in winter the sun is really weak. Your shaded north facing windows may be just fine for a few months in winter. I used to live in Dallas, winter was short. I can't picture clivia surviving the winter outside there, but might be able to go back out in February.
Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Nov 1, 2017 11:04 AM CST
Thanks again Tarev for the information. I went ahead and gave it a thorough watering. We're supposed to be near 90 tomorrow so it will feel like Summer again. I have it on my front porch in the shaded part. I bookmarked the NY Times article too. Thumbs up Here it is in new mix and a new pot.
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Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Nov 1, 2017 11:08 AM CST
Pistil said:The most beautiful clivia I ever saw was a massive specimen that had been owned for 30 years by a lady in Seattle. It was in a very large pot on a table about 20 feet from east-facing windows. The windows took up the entire wall, cathedral ceiling. Particularly in winter, the plant was rather neglected and watered infrequently. I guess what I am saying is they seem to tolerate pretty low light levels. She could not recall when it had been repotted. Seattle is really far north (north of Maine) so particularly in winter the sun is really weak. Your shaded north facing windows may be just fine for a few months in winter. I used to live in Dallas, winter was short. I can't picture clivia surviving the winter outside there, but might be able to go back out in February.


That's amazing Mary. I wish I had windows like that in my house. I bet the clivia in Seattle was breath-taking when it was in full bloom? I have some space on my nightstand which sits directly in front of a north facing window so that may be it's new home when I have to bring it indoors? I put my dormant plumerias in there and it's mainly for plants that don't need much attention or watering during winter. That will probably prevent overwatering because I'm always tempted to pamper my plants during winter but that usually results in a few casualties.
Name: Cameron Allen
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TexasPlumeria87
Jul 20, 2018 11:07 AM CST
Today I found a nice surprise on my clivia. I wasn't expecting it to bloom so soon. Hurray!




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sallyg
Jul 23, 2018 7:19 AM CST
wow! awesome. Mine have only bloomed late winter.
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Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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TexasPlumeria87
Jul 23, 2018 7:39 AM CST
sallyg said:wow! awesome. Mine have only bloomed late winter.


Thanks Sally! I wasn't expecting it to bloom now. I had always read they bloom in winter. I wonder why mine decided to bloom now lol?
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tarev
Jul 24, 2018 4:46 PM CST
Cameron, you have been rewarded nicely by your Clivia, good growing! Hurray! Thumbs up
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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TexasPlumeria87
Jul 25, 2018 7:06 AM CST
tarev said:Cameron, you have been rewarded nicely by your Clivia, good growing! Hurray! Thumbs up


Thanks Tarev! I was so happy to see the blooms. Hurray!

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