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Name: Lucille
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Lucillle
Oct 31, 2017 11:57 AM CST

I went To Walmart today to buy fruit (I do most of my shopping online, I mostly just buy perishables now at the store) but checked out the plant section. They did have some cacti on the sale table. Naturally my first instinct was to get them all, but I decided to pass after thinking it over. Actually had to take 2 out of my cart and put them back.
I really like my plant area and the cacti and succulents I have, and I have just the amount of plants I can take care of easily. If I saw something really unusual I might get it, but for now I have enough.
I hope that doesn't sound like plant heresy.
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DaisyI
Oct 31, 2017 1:26 PM CST
It sounds to me like incredible self-control. I have seen plants and put them in my cart, just to take them out again after a spin around the store. But, I realize if I took everyone of them home with me, I would have to move to the garage.
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Frenchy21
Oct 31, 2017 10:22 PM CST
Lucillle said:
I went To Walmart today to buy fruit (I do most of my shopping online, I mostly just buy perishables now at the store) but checked out the plant section. They did have some cacti on the sale table. Naturally my first instinct was to get them all, but I decided to pass after thinking it over. Actually had to take 2 out of my cart and put them back.
I really like my plant area and the cacti and succulents I have, and I have just the amount of plants I can take care of easily. If I saw something really unusual I might get it, but for now I have enough.
I hope that doesn't sound like plant heresy.

Wow Lucille! The willpower and determination Thumbs up I would have cried all the way home. Sad Hilarious! Hilarious!
Name: Lucille
Texas
Lucillle
Nov 1, 2017 6:28 AM CST
I think each individual can determine for themselves the size of their collection. When I had a house I had a huge collection of roses and other flowers and really enjoyed them. But as I get older, I do seem to have less energy.
I want to keep this collection a joy to have, not a burden and since it amounts to almost 100 plants I am by no means denying myself.

I don't think there is a concept 'too many plants'. But I do think that without some planning one could find oneself in the position of not having time enough to adequately take care of the plants they have.
I do have respect for those who give their energy to rescue plants from sale tables and other places and make them happy and beautiful again.
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Pistil
Nov 1, 2017 10:21 AM CST
I think you are wise!
I find it easy to have too many houseplants, try hard to grit my teeth and get rid of the underperformers, so I can enjoy the good ones. If I have too many, it becomes too much of a chore, also I can't get at them all because they are too jumbled together. That is a recipe for insect infestations.
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Nov 1, 2017 11:07 AM CST

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Yes, I try to remove the plants that struggle for whatever reason. It may be difficult in the moment but it improves the long-term average.

There comes a point in the collecting of plants (succulents or whatever) where energy or space is so limiting that one becomes more picky about what to bring home. I think I've bought 1 or 2 plants in the past year.

At this point I'm producing baby plants at such a rate that I can entertain myself pretty well without much external input. Smiling Meanwhile the space limitations that govern my patio gardening mean that I have to find new homes for my bigger plants on a regular basis.
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purpleinopp
Nov 3, 2017 1:19 PM CST
A clearance plant that's in poor condition is no bargain if searching for long-term plant-family members. Just a smal (ler) waste of valuable plant budget. I'd rather buy a full-price specimen in fantastic condition if it's something I want.
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Name: Agavegirl1
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AgaveGirl1
Nov 4, 2017 3:12 PM CST
I find myself slapping my hand away from the sale tables too. Rolling my eyes. Space is my consideration. They're soooooo cute and adorable when they're little but the kids do grow up so fast----and then what? Yeah. Present problem I'm having. So no more plant shopping unless something croaks.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. This was December of 2015.
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I took this picture August 24th, 2017. The thing has 5 arms now, is making flowers and notice where it is height wise in comparison to the neighbor's roof? Blinking
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Just a partial shot of the front yard. Rolling my eyes. So no more room to get carried away. Have to contend with pups and off shoots and just tending to what I have. If something croaks then I'll replace it. That's o.k. though. I've been enjoying watching the progress and how things are growing and flourishing now that they're established. There's more flowers and butterflies and humming birds and bees in the yard to watch and less work to do. Thumbs up

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No, I'm not done by any means. Now I just get to focus on accenting the yard with pretty pots and small plants and working on the back yard patio area. Those are my projects for next spring. So I'll probably be cruising that sale table again BUT being very particular and selective about what I'm taking home and how often. nodding

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Name: Lucille
Texas
Lucillle
Nov 4, 2017 4:57 PM CST
AgaveGirl1 said:

Just a partial shot of the front yard.

Absolutely gorgeous, and you are right, your restraint in not overcrowding is part of what makes your yard so outstanding.

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AgaveGirl1
Nov 4, 2017 5:05 PM CST
*Blush* Thank you for the super nice compliment. You're too kind. To be honest though it isn't so much thoughtfulness or artistic restraint that is keeping the yard in check so much as it is the fear of my neighbor's getting pissed at me because my plants have run amok onto their property. Hilarious!
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Turbosaurus
Nov 11, 2017 1:50 AM CST
Lucille! I am so proud of YOU! LOL.

It aint easy, but you saved yourself a ton of heartbreak. Don't buy plants in November unless they are plants that thrive in this season. Most succulents are ramping down, not up at this time of year.

You have a bunch of stuff to practice on. See what works, get into a grove. Anything I sent you would have ended up in the compost heap- this is for practice- its okay if they die- I have more.

You've got a good base of common plants. Now you should be looking online to plan for the future, the special one or two that you want to add to your collection that you will buy from the right grower at the right time of year.
Name: Lucille
Texas
Lucillle
Nov 11, 2017 4:21 PM CST
Turbosaurus, It looks like 1 plant you sent may not make it but I am leaving it where it is on the chance that part of the stem may root. Everything else (crossing my fingers)you sent is still alive.
And each plant has enough room, and so I think heading away from the sale table was a good choice.
I have to get them all through winter, that will be the real test. I will use my supplemental lighting, and I will avoid watering very much at all. The baby orchids still need watering, so it is up to me to make sure I stop after I've finished with them.

Name: Agavegirl1
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AgaveGirl1
Nov 14, 2017 3:36 PM CST
O.K. Is any one else having really odd weather?

Here's my situation in AZ. By now all my plants should be at full rest and NOT growing. They still are. Sale table or not, I'm tempted to shop but I don't because I live in the desert. That means as much as a 30 degree difference literally between night and day! Today we are at 86 degrees Blinking Confused (which is 9 degrees above the norm b.t.w.---Nah! No Global Warming) but at night we do get to a nice, cool and crisp 55-60 degrees (Thank Goodness!).

Now in about a week our day time temps are supposed to drop to the mid to low 70s Crossing Fingers! and that means we'll be in the 40s at night. December we should be in the 60s for the daytime and in the upper 30s in the evening. In the 10 years I've lived here I have NEVER seen frost although we have flirted with it by getting close to 35 and 36 degrees and I do cover my cacti as a precaution.

So via this long winded explanation Rolling my eyes. I guess what I'm asking is anyone else having inordinately unseasonably warm weather in which their plants are still growing? And....Does anyone else get such a radical difference between their day and evening temps like I do?

Oh, it has also been 93 days without rain thus far so I am also out watering when required or my kids look like they need it. Anyone else?

I just don't know what to make out of this new season because it sure isn't fall but it sure isn't time to plant and raid that sale table either. Caution keeps telling me not to because at some point I think Shrug! we will get cold this year.

What do you guys think? Or are you ready to plant all year long?
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plantmanager
Nov 14, 2017 8:44 PM CST
In NM we are getting high 70's to 80's in the daytime and 40 at night. It's much warmer this year than normal for November in NM. No rain here either, so it's still watering time. I have a feeling that eventually it will be planting and growing all year in AZ and NM. Every year is warmer than the last. Sort of scary, too!
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LizDTM
Nov 14, 2017 10:23 PM CST
Yep, way above normal here in Gilbert, too. According to what I'm reading, La Nina is going to keep us warmer and drier than usual all winter this year.
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Name: Karen
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plantmanager
Nov 14, 2017 10:25 PM CST
Us too, in New Mexico. Sad We really need the winter rains or we'll have a really bad wildfire season and wells drying up.
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Name: Agavegirl1
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AgaveGirl1
Nov 15, 2017 12:21 PM CST
Karen,
I think you're right. It will get to a point where we will eventually be planting all year long. Saw a thing on the news where a farmer here locally was showing he had peach trees flowering again! That means peaches. And yes....I've seen random buds (not blooms) on a Saguaro here and there. Blinking Confused Those only bloom once a year and that is so NOT in September or November! I've been keeping my eye on them to see what happens. Anyone else noticing their plants or other indigenous plants blooming or reproducing when they shouldn't?

Plus the cacti in the desert look shriveled and tapered towards the tops and have cracks in the arms. You can see they're suffering from the lack of rain and not just within the last 90 days. The rainfall has been very light the last 2 years and this year virtually non existent. Some of my own plants look kind of odd. I have some very warped Aloe Vera.

Sighing! I hate to sound like the harbinger of doom but I think humans have managed to screw things up enough to throw our air and water currents and temps out of whack enough that our growing zones and seasons are no longer accurate----just my opinion.

I think AZ, where I'm at, based on the last 2 years is now more reflective of a 10B then a 9B growing zone. I do think we will get a 'winter' but whatever that may be will be very brief. I'm guessing from December through mid March and I'm going to go with dry. If it isn't dry then in no way will it garner the amount of rain needed in such a short time to make up for the deficit unless we get torrential rains of Biblical proportions for days on end. Let's hope not.

O.K. here's what I was talking about with my warped Aloe vera. Look at the plant closest to the front. See how the leaves are fused together and short and squat and even bent and curly? Blinking Confused Happened last summer during the Summer when I had days of 118- 122. Plants never flowered this year either.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:35 PM CST

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That actually looks concerning to me. I would rip out the mutant plant. It could be growing monstrose or it could be some weird reaction to the aloe mite (which can cause odd deformities when it's not causing actual aloe cancer). Look at the base of the leaves, near the stem, and if there is orange or yellow "bubbly" looking tissue there then you can confirm the aloe mite. Did the plant grow out of this weirdness eventually?
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Name: Agavegirl1
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AgaveGirl1
Nov 15, 2017 1:55 PM CST
I'll dig it up tomorrow and let you guys know what I see.

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plantmanager
Nov 15, 2017 2:07 PM CST
I had the same thoughts. That just isn't normal growth for them when it's hot and dry. It grows easily enough that you can get rid of that part if it shows any signs of mites or other problems.
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