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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 8:31 AM CST
@Calif_Sue if this is in the wrong area, please move me . . . Smiling

Quoting a whole large previous post takes up data transfer and data space with the host (money). Perhaps this information is under Trish's pages, but I apologize I didn't take time to look, and then please let me know and if possible we can delete this thread entirely.

For those users at NGA who are new or just entering into the intermediate group.

When you choose the selection "quote" under the individual's post to whom you are quoting, you will come to the edit page where you scroll down and begin typing what you want to say before or after that entire quote.

When you see something like this [ quote="Teresa" ] , at the beginning of the quote, this is where the quote started. When you see something like this [ /quote="Teresa" ] , at the end of the quote, this is where the quote ends.

You can delete out anything between those two symbols, but do NOT delete out the symbols or brackets or you will lose the form of the quote.

Also, by so doing, you will give the readers of your post a better understanding of exactly which portion of the quote you are speaking.

T
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 8:34 AM CST
TsFlowers said:

When you see something like this [ quote="Teresa" ] , at the beginning of the quote, this is where the quote started. When you see something like this [ /quote="Teresa" ] , at the end of the quote, this is where the quote ends.

T


The quote contains the username, so if you are quoting a post that I have made, then those beginning (and ending) brackets would look similar to this: [ quote="TsFlowers" ] and this [ /quote="TsFlowers" ]

Notice the slash / - That and the bracket have to be there to end the quote, or again, you will lose the form of the quote.

. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 8:39 AM CST
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
Nov 4, 2017 8:43 AM CST
Great that you are going thru this to teach others, Teresa!
Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Nov 4, 2017 8:49 AM CST
I agree that folks could be more cognizant of how they use the quote feature and only highlight what they are actually responding to. All too often, I get bogged down by scrolling past several full-on repeats of the initial post in a row, often with several photos included. I never quite get that. Seems a normal conversation rather assumes one has read previous posts, looked at the photos, and there is a natural flow to the discussion. I personally get quickly bored of seeing the same thing over and over and having to scroll down to follow the discussion, so usually just abandon the thread and mark is an unwatch. That's an easy work-around for me.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 8:51 AM CST
TsFlowers said:
Quoting a whole large previous post takes up data transfer and data space with the host (money). Perhaps this information is under Trish's pages, but I apologize I didn't take time to look, and then please let me know and if possible we can delete this thread entirely.

T


So then, the least amount of data space and transfer we have at NGA, the least amount of advertising we will have to have to pay for that space.

. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 8:54 AM CST
This post is going to be slightly off topic, but just a word to users who have a little more time, want to learn something new, and also want to keep advertising to a minimum:

Photos also take up data transfer and space, costing NGA money which must be paid by advertisement or contribution. A huge photo file (I'm guilty too -because of time and work load) takes a lot of data space and transfer. I cannot get further off topic, but suggest to users that it would be good to have and learn a photo editor in which to crop your photos. A huge photo like 1500 x 2000 pixels takes a lot of space. (Perhaps go to the photos forum to learn or for help). Some of my photos that are only 600 x 800 pixels still look very nice.
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 9:29 AM CST
Before I post again, I want to say to everyone reading to please feel free to ask questions pertaining to the topic. Smiling Thanks.
T
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 9:47 AM CST
Now at any time a user can go back and begin editing their posts and their post including quotes in those posts (I think). But I'm also not sure if that would cause the threads to become rampant bringing them to the top? When someone edits their old threads, does it come to the top of the list as a new post?
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
Cat Lover Lilies Daylilies Irises Cut Flowers Canning and food preservation
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 9:54 AM CST
And for more advanced users, I would like to know how to "Quote" from one thread to another?

Do I have to open two instances of my browser and:
1) First be in the thread that I want to quote to
2) Open another browser instance of NGA and go to the thread and individual post I want to quote from.
3) Go to that quote, click on it "Quote", scroll to the page to edit it,
4) but instead of editing the post, copy the quoted post with my keyboard: by highlighting it, and then holding down the Ctrl key on my keyboard and pressing the letter "c"
5) then moving back to the first browser posting a new reply to that thread and pressing the Ctrl + "v" key to paste it. ??

Can this be done or is there an easier way?
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Dirt
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dirtdorphins
Nov 4, 2017 10:11 AM CST
Editing a post does not register as a new post and will not "cause the threads to become rampant bringing them to the top"

Yes, you can copy and paste anything that way.
If a thread has been 'locked', however, and no replies can be posted to that thread, then the 'quote' function is disabled for that thread, so you cannot copy a quote from a locked thread to post into another thread
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 10:16 AM CST
Okay, after a little testing in the Iris forum, let's say for instance *all* you want to quote is a photo from a post in the same thread.

You then click on "Quote" under that post, then you begin editing that post following above instructions under my Post #1579375.
Then, when you begin deleting out everything, again, do NOT delete out the quote/form and symbols, and do NOT delete out something that looks like this:

[ lightbox ]2017-11-04/TsFlowers/d226f9[ /lightbox ]

Now I will need some help to identify the actual individual photo if many photos have been posted in a single post?
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 10:22 AM CST
lunch time . . . later
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Nov 4, 2017 12:56 PM CST
TsFlowers, I may have missed the announcement. Are you one of the admins of NGA?

You seem concerned about wasting space for NGA. Yet you made posts at 10:31,10:34, 10:39, 10:51, 10:54, 12:16 and after creating the discussion you run off to lunch? Could you not have put your information into a single post? And after starting a discussion, could you not have stuck around a while?

Maybe it's just me, but when I have questions about how the site works, I usually address my questions to Dave or Trish.

Most people already know that the 'quote' can be edited. I almost always edit the quote down to make my meaning more clear. Many people (for whatever reason) just leave the entire quote intact including all the photos from the original post. It may be like trying to teach an old dog new tricks, difficult but not impossible. Thumbs up Good luck. Crossing Fingers!

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Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 1:17 PM CST
greene said:

You seem concerned about wasting space for NGA. Yet you made posts at 10:31,10:34, 10:39, 10:51, 10:54, 12:16 and after creating the discussion you run off to lunch? Could you not have put your information into a single post? And after starting a discussion, could you not have stuck around a while?



I was learning myself as I went, made mistakes and necessary to fix. Had other stuff going on.
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
Cat Lover Lilies Daylilies Irises Cut Flowers Canning and food preservation
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 1:19 PM CST
greene said:

Maybe it's just me, but when I have questions about how the site works, I usually address my questions to Dave or Trish.



I thought that perhaps Dave or Trish already had loads with other people calling them to forums. Just trying to help.
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
Cat Lover Lilies Daylilies Irises Cut Flowers Canning and food preservation
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Annuals Seller of Garden Stuff Vegetable Grower
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 1:21 PM CST
greene said:

Most people already know that the 'quote' can be edited.


I didn't know that *most* people already knew how to edit 'quotes'

. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
Cat Lover Lilies Daylilies Irises Cut Flowers Canning and food preservation
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Annuals Seller of Garden Stuff Vegetable Grower
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 1:25 PM CST
greene said:TsFlowers, I may have missed the announcement. Are you one of the admins of NGA?


I didn't know that I had to be one of the admins at NGA to make such a post. If you will read the very beginning, I called Calif_Sue who is very kind and helpful, to discuss what I had done, if it were improper. If I'm not mistaken, she is an Admin. If she's not available today, I did not know that either.

Shall I become an Admin? but that's off topic.

Sorry @greene if I have caused you distress by what I have done.

. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Teresa
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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TsFlowers
Nov 4, 2017 2:02 PM CST
@greene

greene said:TsFlowers, I may have missed the announcement. Are you one of the admins of NGA?


I don't understand this comment. Can you please clarify? Thanks. Crossing Fingers!
. . . it's always better to ask questions, than jump to conclusions.
AND . . . always hear both sides of the story before making a judgment.
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Name: Frenchy
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Frenchy21
Nov 4, 2017 3:05 PM CST
@TsFlowers thanks for the above info on quote editing. I had not thought about doing that and I'm sure there are many like me who are not so computer savvy. Sticking tongue out I just used it today and will now be able to quote others more often. Thank You!

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