Irises forum: Help ID a NoID Purple Plicata

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Name: Richard
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Winklemanmr
Nov 5, 2017 10:54 PM CST
This beautiful iris has been growing around my mother's house for 15 years and her best friend had it grown around her home for 10 or more years before. I was told that it was dug up from the side of the road in Jones, OK more than 30 years ago. There have been two times that a "lite" version bloomed as seen in the last photo. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 6, 2017 3:51 AM CST
Welcome!
Winklemanmr

Purple plicata irises are very difficult to identify as there are hundreds of them. I had a quick look at our database, mostly looking for the line running down the middle of the falls and I found the following possibilities:
Acropole

Hawaiian Holiday

Rococo


There are many irises in the database that don't have images and there will be other irises that it could be. The only way to accurately identify your iris is to acquire the iris you think it may be and do a side by side comparison when they bloom. The height, bloom time, colour of the iris and beards and the branching should all match.

Good luck with your search Crossing Fingers!
Name: Scott
Elburn, IL (Zone 5b)
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BlueFlagFan
Nov 6, 2017 5:46 AM CST
Welcome! Winklemannr! Good luck with your search!
“A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability, and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise.” -Aldo Leopold
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover
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iciris
Nov 6, 2017 8:45 AM CST
I agree and another Welcome!
BlueFlagFan said: Welcome! Winklemannr! Good luck with your search!


Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Nov 6, 2017 9:07 AM CST

Welcome! Winklemanmr

I think you should start with a search of the purple and white plicatas in the database (check out blue & white and violet & white as well). Yes, there are a whole lot of them. The fact that your iris is probably at least 25-30 years old will narrow the search field to iris introduced before 1990-1995. Also, it has the more modern form so you can probably rule out plicatas introduced before 1945 or so. That still gives you 50 years of plicatas but the prominent centerline on the falls will narrow it even more.
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Nov 6, 2017 4:11 PM CST
iciris said: I agree and another Welcome!




welcome, and good luck.......!
Name: Richard
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Winklemanmr
Nov 6, 2017 7:48 PM CST
Thanks for the encouragement and the leads. I did get a strange bloom last year when I moved this iris around and made a new bed. The picture looks similar to "San Francisco" which is a parent to "Acropole" and the other strange bloom in my initial post does look like "Hawaiian Holiday"
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Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Nov 6, 2017 9:24 PM CST
Oh, you got a really cool chimera, which is what the blooms that go a bit crazy are called. A chimera can have color changes, such as yours, or ones where the petals are half one color and half another. But they can also have extra falls or be missing some, or just produce really odd blooms. Your second and third blooms above are amongst the pretty chimera. These blooms are usually caused by environmental stressors like late freezes and the such. We have several threads on this forum about them if you want to check out the beautiful oddities of the iris world.
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Richard
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Winklemanmr
Nov 6, 2017 10:05 PM CST
Thank you Lestv, I'm learning more and more each day. I went a little crazy the past two years and have a multitude of irises growing. I even have a few rebloomers going crazy here in OKC. Also, I have another question not related to this particular discussion, but are there irises that only bloom in the Fall. I have City Lights planted and it's only bloomed in the Fall the past two seasons. It's been going strong this season for over 30 days. It even survived the first freeze a couple weeks ago.
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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grannysgarden
Nov 7, 2017 5:33 AM CST
Richard, I am no expert but for my two cents rebloomers are supposed to bloom in the spring and also in the fall. Some of mine that bloom in the fall do so very well that they do not recoup enough bloom energy to make a show in the spring but again will bloom the next fall. Repeat bloomers bloom in the spring and then may rebloom a month later or several times during the summer. One of the things I have found to encourage rebloomers to perform as expected is to give them extra water during the summer, expecially during very hot dry months, and feed them after the first bloom cycle in the spring. There are others on here who collect and grow many rebloomers and they will be better able to help with this question. Smiling Welcome to the iris forum. Your photos are lovely.
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Name: Richard
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Winklemanmr
Nov 7, 2017 11:14 PM CST
Bonnie,

Thank you for the advice. I may have overwatered this summer. I also did a lot of watering after planting my new irises that I ordered from Schreiner's. I would like to add them to my list, but they have not been added to the database as some of them are 2017 introductions. Of the eight that I ordered I feel that 4 of them will bloom for sure this spring. I can't wait to see them!!!
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 8, 2017 12:28 AM CST
I can't wait to see them too Thumbs up especially the new Schreiners.
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Nov 8, 2017 12:43 AM CST
Totally_Amazing said:I can't wait to see them too Thumbs up especially the new Schreiners.


me, too!
Name: Richard
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Winklemanmr
Nov 8, 2017 12:56 AM CST
I'm not sure if I could post the pictures from the Schreiner's website and I'm too new to post a link, please check out the 2017 introductions on their website.

I have the following:
Bellini
Cubs Win It
Express Yourself
Feel The Thunder
Morning World
On Deck
Triple Take

The 8th iris I ordered was the one I originally wanted "Starship Enterprise" but it was not available and it was replaced with "Who Needs A Prince"

Can't wait for Spring 2018...

Also, I will be ordering "Tanzanite Twinkle" for 2018 planting!!!
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 8, 2017 2:35 AM CST
This is the link to the schreiner 2017 introductions
https://www.schreinersgardens....
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Nov 8, 2017 4:36 AM CST
Nice order Richard. You should have some nice pictures to post to the data base next spring. Smiling
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Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Nov 8, 2017 2:04 PM CST
thx for posting the link, robin.
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Nov 9, 2017 8:49 AM CST
Beautiful choices Richard!

Since you live in Oklahoma City I have a suggestion for you. Take time during the bloom season to visit Stout Garden at Dancingtree. Hugh Stout grows a very large variety of iris (and daylillies) and you live so close you should go take in the beauty. I wish I had a vendor like that in my backyard. nodding Check out their website for more info.

You can contact them at:
info@stoutgardens.com or by phone at (405) 642.4190.

website: https://www.stoutgardens.com/

They are located at:
432 NE 70th St
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73105
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Richard
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Winklemanmr
Nov 10, 2017 2:45 AM CST
I will definitely check them out this spring. Thanks!!
Baltimore, MD
Tilth
Nov 11, 2017 2:23 PM CST
It may be "stepping out"....a very nice older iris..

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