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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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spunky1
Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM CST
I have wanted this transformation for several years and found out yesterday that I really do have 44 chromosomes and not just the 22 I have had since 2005. I had my pollen checked under a microscope Jan 17 2012 during our trip to Larry Grace and it was determined I was a full TET. I know this may not mean much to the rest of you DIPs but just wait until the time comes when someone says "YOU NEED TO BE CONVERTED" and your chest will also swell with pride knowing you can be something more than just another DIP.
Take a good look at what all you DIPs will be missing this bloom season.
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I can also do this if you talk just right.
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Name: Doris&David Bishop
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Casshigh
Jan 18, 2012 4:43 PM CST
Congratulations on being converted, Fred! All the other dips out there are jealous. Seriously, what an honor to now be a TET conversion! More great genes and possibilities are now available in the TET world. Fred Manning is a beautiful, outstanding daylily, and the same can be said for the MAN!
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Name: stephanie king
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rebloomnut
Jan 18, 2012 5:00 PM CST
Well this DIP is Elated. What a great one to be converted. It is going to bring so much to the table. SO SO HAPPY FOR YOU YOU FORMER DIP Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Kim W
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kimkats
Jan 18, 2012 5:07 PM CST
I agree Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Claudia
Jan 18, 2012 6:38 PM CST
Congratulations Fred Manning!! Hurray! Hurray!


Too bad for all the other Dips waiting..... Whistling
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Name: Michele
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tink3472
Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM CST
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We loved you as a DIP and we'll love you as a TET just the same (maybe even more Green Grin! )
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Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jan 18, 2012 7:47 PM CST
Fred, have you gotten LILLIAN'S WOMAN'S TOUCH converted?
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Name: kimbar rise
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kimbar
Jan 18, 2012 7:48 PM CST
Fred that's COOL and BEAUTIFUL all at the same time. Congrats........ Big Grin
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daylily
Jan 18, 2012 7:59 PM CST
Green Grin! Thumbs up
Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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spunky1
Jan 19, 2012 4:44 AM CST
You Guys are just to nice. Here are the ones that have been treated, sent back to James and I, and were not converted. Lillian's Womans Touch, Philippi, and Lillian's Thin Ice. We will pick up a full conversion of LTIce in March. I think Michele should learn to do this, shes in this daylily stuff for the long haul, shes young, shes good at anything she wants to do, and we have an unlimited supply of plants to practice on. We already know where we can get lessons free of charge, I will even supply the gas and let you ride in my Oddsey.
Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jan 19, 2012 8:18 AM CST
WOW, I get to ride in the odyssey! I feel special Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I say let's do it. The worst that could happen is I kill all the daylilies I'm trying to convert Green Grin! But hey, even the experienced ones do that once in awhile
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Name: Mona
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monalisa18
Jan 19, 2012 12:11 PM CST
Do you mean that you can kill a daylily?? My DH always gets a little carried away with the round-up and it may stunt a few for a week or two, but they recover fast. I've left them way way toooooo long without any care and they still grew, in pots! I even had some that I've left laying on the ground, forgotten and discover them the next year, blooming! So, you must use some heavy duty stuff to change a dip to a tet. Be careful, it might make a girl into a boy!!! I'm all ears! Hilarious!
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Betja
Jan 19, 2012 4:32 PM CST
Just as long as YOU don't get converted, Michele! Can't have that!



Betty
Name: Michele
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tink3472
Jan 19, 2012 5:36 PM CST
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You guys are too funny!!!

Yes, many daylilies are forever at rest with them trying to be converted. If the chemicals are mixed properly and administered properly then the chemicals shouldn't kill the daylily. From what I've read if the growing tip gets smothered with the outer remnants of foliage it can rot, if the growing tip grows out and does not open properly it can cause rot, if you touch it you can get germs on it from your hands and cause rot or other disease

Here is some photos from Bill Waldrops blog http://billwaldropdaylilies.com/ that shows some of the process. If you go there either key in conversion/s in the search box or just scroll through old posts. Or just google daylily conversion and you will see several links to Bill's blog about different conversions he's done/doing.

The first 2 photos show how much you cut off the daylily
the 3rd photo is with the chemicals applied. Bill adds red food coloring to it so he can see it better and make sure it gets absorbed.
The 4th photo shows how the foliage begins to grow. If this doesn't open up it can cause rot. Sometimes you have to help it along and cut it open.

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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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spunky1
Jan 20, 2012 6:37 AM CST
From what I learned last week, one of the most important things is the weather unless you have a controlled environment to keep them in. They have to be completely dry and kept at a certain temperature when they first start growing after being treated. If the temps and humidity get to high there's a good chance they will not survive. There are so many things that can go wrong when doing this, many daylilies have been killed during this process, including several of my own, but its the only way to get the dip genes into the tets.
Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jan 20, 2012 7:38 AM CST
A lot of the photos I come across of someone showing their conversion process is usually inside their home. Jamie Gossard does it inside his greenhouse and he does alomost 800 at a time. One thing I learned about conversions is that the Tet conversion most of the time will have a shorter scape than the Dip. I thought I had read somewhere that the scapes were usually taller, but I could be wrong. There are various conversion processes and people mix their chemicals differently. Someone told me about a person who does conversions but they inject the chemical into the crown instead of the way the photos show. Not sure exactly how that is done though.

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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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Hemlady
Jan 20, 2012 7:54 AM CST
I have heard that converted dips can still revert back to dips. Is this true??
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Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jan 20, 2012 9:01 AM CST
Yes they can revert back especially if they are not 100% converted. Larry Grace thinks one reason you may end up with a dip after a conversion has been done is that part of the crown didn't get the chemical to it and when the offshoot fans grow out they can be dip while the main fan remains tet. I read that heat, stress, and various other factors can cause it to convert back in the early stages of growth. That's why it can take years to convert some daylilies. Fred has waited 4-5 years for a conversion before.
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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Hemlady
Jan 20, 2012 2:40 PM CST
Thanks for the info.
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Name: Doris&David Bishop
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Casshigh
Jan 20, 2012 5:05 PM CST
In one of the Daylily Addict videos (really good DVDs, check them out at TheDaylilyAddict website) shows Steve Zolock showing how to inject a Colchisine (the old gout medicine, misspelled here) solution into the crown of a daylily to convert it to a tet. Trimmer, Don Eller, Grace, Waldrop, et. al. use the method shown in Tink's post. They cut the potted plant after withholding water for many days, add Colchicine (see, I can misspell it at least two ways) to the growing tip over a period of a few days, and HOPE it is converted. I'd guess that Gossard does the same. Some of the plants die for various reasons, so don't practice on your only fans of favorite cultivars. Even the experienced expect a certain amount to not survive. Zolock is the only person I've seen that treats a daylily growing in the garden. NORMALLY, converted flowers have stronger scapes. Some are not pod fertile.
David
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