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Name: Hetty Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)              Dutchlady1 Jan 18, 2012 4:40 PM CST |
| Nothing gets to stay in my yard unless it provides me with flowers..... I have just taken out a shrub and have room for a new one. It is in a corner on the east side of my house and gets a small amount of morning sun, that is it. It would be next to a Gardenia which is old but still performs well. It is probably in its twilight years so if the new plant should get big it would not be a problem. Any suggestions? |
 tropicbreeze Jan 18, 2012 10:40 PM CST |
| There are some Clerodendrum species that are okay in shade. There's a shrubby plant I have that grows well in shade, but I can't remember the name. The common name was Temple Plant, or Temple something. I'd have to go back to the nursery and see the name again. I bought a small one because it was much cheaper. But I was first attracted to it when I saw the larger plants with bright red flowers. It was in the shade section. I should be there again in the next day or two and will let you know. |
Name: Hetty Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a) Dutchlady1 Jan 19, 2012 4:29 AM CST |
| Thanks! MMM, I have a variegated Clerodendrum quadrilocare, I wonder if it would thrive in the shade? |
Name: Susan Zone 10a (Zone 10a)       gardenersdetective Jan 19, 2012 12:16 PM CST |
| Hetty how about Hamelia patens aka Firebush aka Scarletbush, Gardenia jasminoides aka Gardenia aka Cape Jasmine, Brunfelsia grandiflora aka Yesterday-Today-and-Tomorrow, Ardisia escallonioides aka Marlberry aka Marbleberry, Allamanda neriifolia aka Bush Allamanda aka Bush Trumpet ? |
Name: Jonna Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)        extranjera Jan 19, 2012 12:39 PM CST |
| How about what I think is called Crape Jasmine in the US? Here it is called Clave de la India but it is Tabernaemontana divaricata. They can grow into a small tree here but also can be pruned as a shrub. I have a medium sized one in a large pot on a terrace that gets sun only for a few hours in the afternoon most of the year, it does get a lot of light other than that however. I have seen them in the ground in full sun to no sun but bright light. The smell is wonderful at night, especially if it is humid. Mine blooms pretty much year around, I've had some yellowing problems but they are getting better. I don't think it was getting enough water but I now have it on the irrigation system and the leaves are greening up, even with the yellowing leaves it was full of blooms. A day without sunshine is like, you know, night. |
Name: Hetty Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a) Dutchlady1 Jan 19, 2012 12:44 PM CST |
| Thank you both, I will consider all these suggestions, except the Hamelia patens which really (in my experience) loves the sun. |
Name: Susan Zone 10a (Zone 10a) gardenersdetective Jan 19, 2012 1:20 PM CST |
| We don't have tropical sun in MO but Firebush did great in part shade here. The hummers were hitting it constantly. Really one of my favorites because it can be brought into the basement in winter, requires no care and it goes dormant. Then back outside in June. http://floridayards.org/fyplan... |
| tropicbreeze Jan 21, 2012 3:46 AM CST |
| Hetty, I checked out that plant in the nursery, it wasn't called "Temple Plant", it's actually Pagoda Plant. Don't know whether that qualifies as near enough. It is a Clerodendrum paniculatum, rated for hardiness zones 10 - 13. They have it in their shaded section but apparently it's okay out in the full sun as well. |
Name: Hetty Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a) Dutchlady1 Jan 21, 2012 5:20 AM CST |
| Most Clerodendrums are very easy and adaptable. I have seen the Pagoda plant and it too is very pretty. I am at the moment looking at a Clerodendrum schmidtii, which is blooming at the Naples Botanical Garden. |
| tropicbreeze Jan 21, 2012 10:45 PM CST |
| That Clerodendrum schmidtii looks really nice. Another "Thai Delight". |
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