Trees and Shrubs forum: Oak Tree - what kind

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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 4:10 PM CST
This is my photo, but not my tree. I went about the town and country taking a few fall photos before all color is gone. This is a mega-pixel file, sorry, I don't want to reduce it and have already spent a great amount of time just trying to Find a miscellaneous Oak entry and miscellaneous Acer entry and getting frustrated. Shrug!

Thanks for any help!

Teresa



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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 4:14 PM CST

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plantmanager
Nov 8, 2017 4:16 PM CST
Here is the generic place where you could put your Oak photos.
Oak (Quercus)
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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 4:49 PM CST
Thanks Karen @plantmanager for responding so fast.

What I did was "Add a Plant" and use the link as above for Oak and Acer before I saw your generic. I guess my brain is on such overload from figuring out new things at NGA that I got frustrated. Is there a generic Acer too?

So then if I find one, who do I notify to delete my requested Add entries?
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plantmanager
Nov 8, 2017 5:26 PM CST
TsFlowers said:

So then if I find one, who do I notify to delete my requested Add entries?


Teresa. just click on the photo you put in and would like to move or delete. If you look down below you will see all of those options and more. You can have them deleted or moved.

Here is the generic Acer:
Maple (Acer)

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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 5:48 PM CST
It didn't even allow me to add a photo. It was weird. I figures Admins would have to accept it first before I could add the photo.

I did a little searching online and think it's the White Oak family, and possible towards this variety https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... because it definitely is growing in a limestone rich area and of the states Wiki has highlighted in blue.

But I just can't find any photos of an oak with white bark branches like this one has. Shrug! Surely the bark of the upper branches doesn't turn white with autumn?
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 6:03 PM CST
I do think it's a Chinkapin Oak because described here: http://www.plantanswers.com/su... the branches bark can be grayish with age.
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 6:21 PM CST
@zuzu - sorry for those entries. I really could use some help. The Oak is in the above photo.

I have the photo of the Acer, should I put it in generic. The Acer, which we in Indiana call "hard maples" are everywhere and spread easily. Should I put it in generic like Karen above suggested?

Thanks!
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 6:25 PM CST
- - the photo entry in the database that I formerly posted here.

This is the Maple (Acer) tree in my yard. It's really a huge beautiful tree. Fall colors could be better, like a sugar maple, but . . . For the Maple, wherever I post I can later put leaves, seeds, closeup bark etc. in the entry.

The oak I cannot, though I may try to enquire of its owner.



Edited to delete out the photo and replace with a link to the database entry.
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plantmanager
Nov 8, 2017 6:26 PM CST
When we add things to the database, it does take a while to be OK'd by the admins if you haven't added many. Later on it becomes instantaneous.
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TsFlowers
Nov 8, 2017 6:29 PM CST
plantmanager said:
Here is the generic Acer:
Maple (Acer)


I went through **all** 11 pages and did not see that. !?!?! arggg!!
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plantmanager
Nov 8, 2017 6:39 PM CST
The best thing is to keep it very simple when searching. If you just put in 'maple', it comes up on the first page. I've often thought that the generic of a species should be number one in the list. That would make it easier.
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zuzu
Nov 8, 2017 6:49 PM CST

Plants Admin

The generic entry is easy to find. Just open anything in the search results and click on the name of the genus.

I searched for "acer." The first item in the search results was Acer palmatum.

Japanese Maple (Acer palmatum)

I opened that entry, clicked on the underlined "Acer" in the name, and arrived at a list of every Acer entry in alphabetical order, starting with the generic entry.

https://garden.org/plants/brow...
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zuzu
Nov 8, 2017 7:00 PM CST

Plants Admin

Here's another easy way to find the generic entry. When you search for Acer and you get your results, ignore them.

https://garden.org/plants/sear...

Instead of looking through pages and pages of results, click on the tab saying "View all plants in the genus Acer." That will produce the list of every Acer entry in alphabetical order, starting with the generic entry.
Name: Karen
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plantmanager
Nov 8, 2017 7:00 PM CST
Thank you, Zu! I never knew that trick, and it does work. I was used to going through pages to find the generic entry.
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Name: John
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ViburnumValley
Nov 15, 2017 3:10 PM CST
Hi TsFlowers/Teresa:

Can you take any more pictures of the trees you've mentioned above? Some closer images of the leaves, and of the branches showing the leaf arrangement and attachment along the stems would be useful in narrowing identities for you. Also, give us an idea of where these plants are growing, since you only provide your growing zone. You mentioned Indiana, but didn't state that these trees are growing there.

I think your first tree above is NOT an Oak species. It looks much more like an American Sycamore (Platanus occidentalis) with that white bark on younger main branches and darker bark with age on older trunks. This species is native to limestone soils and occurs throughout Indiana.
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Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 15, 2017 4:11 PM CST
@ViburnumValley I'm not at all familiar with Trees. I had already considered as I saw some sycamore trees being posted that came up on my home page. The photo taken is what we call out-in-the-boondox. Smiling We had two young girls murdered in our small town and I think some people have become leery of everyone, or I would have pulled down the long drive. I took the photo by parking along the country road with my flashers on. I still was quite a distance from the tree.

The only reason I thought it was *not* a sycamore was because it had small leaves. In a neighbors yard, and lots of places elsewhere, I see our standard Indiana sycamore all over the place. They have *very large* leaves. But based on the other photos I've seen of some sycamores here, it certainly can not be ruled out, and certainly may be.

One thing I was considering too was the white bark is a definite give for a sycamore. And then the other is that Oaks often hold their leaves, even through winter.

A trip back out to the boondox will be a hopeful to-do in the near future.

And thanks so much for posting!
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ViburnumValley
Nov 18, 2017 6:54 PM CST
That tree is not an oak, regardless of other items you mentioned.
John
Name: Teresa
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TsFlowers
Nov 18, 2017 7:26 PM CST
Shrug!
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