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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Nov 10, 2017 12:45 AM CST

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Do you know the ID of this agave? I would like to move it into the plant database since it's not a landscape photo.
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Name: Kyle
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quercusnut
Mar 13, 2018 7:47 PM CST
I think it is Agave parryi but not sure if it is the species or a variety. I raised it from seed years ago and lost ID.
I guess I misunderstood what constitutes a landscape photo. Could you explain?
Thanks so much. Kyle.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Mar 14, 2018 12:33 AM CST

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Landscape showing two or more plants in a landscape setting, as opposed to a single plant that can be added to the plant database. See the other entries for examples.

Definitely not Agave parryi, I'll add it to the generic agave entry after you see this reply. Once I do that, this thread disappears.
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quercusnut
Mar 14, 2018 10:43 PM CST
Cool. Thanks.
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quercusnut
Mar 14, 2018 10:46 PM CST
Are you absolutely sure it isn't Agave parryi?

https://www.achat-vente-palmie...
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Mar 14, 2018 11:39 PM CST

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Let's call in @Baja_Costero and see if he can give us some insight. I'm certainly not an expert and was mostly comparing the imges in our database Parry's Agave (Agave parryi)
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Baja_Costero
Mar 15, 2018 8:13 AM CST
I suppose it could be parryi but that's more a guess than an informed answer. Maybe we could get the resident agavologist @mcvansoest to weigh in on the ID.
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mcvansoest
Mar 15, 2018 9:18 AM CST
My first impression would be that it is not A. parryi because a) more pronounced that expected mammillate margins - teeth on almost all parryi's are not set on pronounced 'teats', b) for the plant's size it has too few leaves, and c) the leaves are bending/curling over outward which I do not think I have ever seen on a parryi, they tend to keep their leaves in a more stiff upright fashion.

Now the caveat to points b and c is that plant growth form and behavior can distinctly change based on growing conditions. Living in Arizona I mostly see plants that grow in their natural habitat or in situations very close to it. More light poor, generally cooler, and/or more humid conditions may have a distinct effect on the plant's form.

That said I feel that the link the photo poster provides shows two distinct plant pictures where I am suspicious that the first picture - which is the main picture - shown is also not actually A. parryi, the second looks more like a typical A. parryi.

But when plants are relatively young and grown out of ideal habitat and the ID is lost, it becomes really hard to say what it then would be - much easier to say what it does not look like. Also if it was seed grown there is always the option that it is a hybrid of some sort. So from my perspective while it being an A. parryi or a hybrid with that plant is not impossible, I do not think so. So posting it in the generic Agave entry seems like the best way forward.
Name: Kyle
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quercusnut
Mar 18, 2018 11:19 AM CST
I asked for an ID over at Agaveville a few months ago but didn't get a definitive answer. I may try again.
Anyway. I raised from seed some years ago. I'm smack dab in the middle of TN a little south of Nashville. It does get morning and afternoon shade and only a few hours of direct sun.
Thanks, everyone for your help.

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