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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 8:15 AM CST
hello there, so i have a cleistocactus and he was at my uncles house until like 2 weeks ago, and my uncle used to water him like a day per week
now he is with me and i dont water him anymore couse its winter here in Portugal and he is most of the time at the sun, but when he came here he had a brown base and he still has that, i dont know why tho, i checked if he had like spider webs couse of the spider mites (i read that the spider mites start this way) but i dont find any webs...
well hope you guys can help me
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Hamwild
Nov 10, 2017 9:11 AM CST
Does the pot have drainage? It looks rather large given the size of the cacti. Also, the potting mix doesn't look very fast draining. All stuff that if changed, you'd want to wait until Spring. I don't see the brown base (I mean I do, but to me it almost looks like "normal" aging). Does it look dead at the base at all? My suggestion is to just keep it in a cool, dry, dark location until Spring (no watering until Spring).
Portugal - Setúbal
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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 9:50 AM CST
@hamwild yeah the pot is like a truck and it has aluminum foil with holes in the bottom and under the car is kind of open, but yeah its not as fast as a normal pot. it does not look dead, its all the same just that little bit more brown :c
yeah im gonna take it from the sun, should i change the pot?
and thank you so much c:
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plantmanager
Nov 10, 2017 11:03 AM CST
It looks fine to me. I'd re-pot it in a smaller pot with fast draining cactus soil. Don't overwater. In winter it's best not to water much at all. Give it the best light you can. If you don't have bright windows you could get a grow light for it. Enjoy your cactus!
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Hamwild
Nov 10, 2017 11:31 AM CST
I'd wait until Speing to repot, when it is actively growing. Unless you can provide adequate lighting in winter (for mot of us we can't, since days are shorter and the sun is weaker), I'd put it somewhere cold, dark, and dry, so it'll go dormant until Spring.
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plantmanager
Nov 10, 2017 11:35 AM CST
That is good if you can't provide the right lighting. In my case, my cacti and succulents grow well over winter, and some even bloom inside. They are much happier in summer when most of them go outside.
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Portugal - Setúbal
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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 11:50 AM CST
@plantmanager thank you so much, i just re-pot him and i notice that the soil was kind of wet in the middle, it must be because of the draining, but now i think he is in a better place eheh
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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 11:53 AM CST
@Hamwild i just re-pot it couse our winters here have a good sun, hope i didnt mess him up :c
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plantmanager
Nov 10, 2017 12:07 PM CST
Good! That looks like a good window for them. What direction does the window face? Be very sparing with water, especially in winter. For my cacti and succulents I have to restrain myself from watering too much. They do better with some neglect. Good luck!

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Baja_Costero
Nov 10, 2017 12:09 PM CST

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What is your minimum winter temperature?

Parts of Portugal are remarkably similar to our climate here.

http://www.lisbon.climatemps.c...

Based on my experience and that similarity, there may be no particular advantage to putting the cactus in a dark location or withholding water during winter. My Cleistocactus gets most of its water during winter, actually. The winter rain can be a risk for your cactus but much less so when you use a faster draining mix, with about half rock (pumice, perlite, fine gravel or grit) and provide as much sun as possible. It is very hard to give these plants too much light. If your plant gets direct sun for a few hours, perfect. More is better in the winter.

Speaking of light, it looks like the plant was under low light conditions at your uncle's house. The longer, thinner stem at the top of the right plant is evidence of this. That is something to avoid in the future for cosmetic and stability reasons (it is not reversible) but more importantly it's a sign to give the plant more light so it will be happier in general.

Be careful with the winter rain if your temperatures are not as mild as in Lisbon. Be sure to provide overhead protection if it comes at the wrong time (during cold temps, or too soon after it has already rained).
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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 12:19 PM CST
@plantmanager my window is directed to south (kind of) basically i have sun in my window since more or less 12 until the sunset eheh
yeah i dont water him at at least 2 weeks couse i thought he recieved too much water when he was at my uncles house
Portugal - Setúbal
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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 12:27 PM CST
@Baja_Costero like today its gonna be 8ºC the minimum (at night)
yeah im not used to water im in the winter, when i wake up i put him outside so he can catch the 12.00am sun and when the sun goes dowm i put him inside, if i see its gonna rain e just put him in a spot inside where he can catch sun too
yeah where he was before it was like a huge window but no direct sun :c
im from setubal in here the wheather is hotter than in lisbon (but they are really similiar its just 1ºC or 2ºC difference)
thank you so much for the help c:
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Baja_Costero
Nov 10, 2017 12:38 PM CST

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Your low tonight is about our annual low. These plants are not particularly sensitive to cold, but they definitely do not like cold and wet. So you can leave the plant outside (if you want) just find a place with overhead protection so it doesn't get too much rain at the wrong time. Indoors you should provide as much light as possible, like right by your sunniest south-facing window, and carry on watering through the winter. But be careful with the water. Wait until the soil is dry at depth to water. The surface may appear dry but if you poke a finger or a chop stick in there, you can find out what's happening at root level.
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plantmanager
Nov 10, 2017 12:39 PM CST
Carolina, that sounds like they'll be much happier living with you! You may even get a surprise bloom in time. Have fun!

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Portugal - Setúbal
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CarolinaVicente
Nov 10, 2017 12:51 PM CST
@Baja_Costero i just take it at night couse whe live near the river so our nights have a big little bit of wind ahah but thank you so much for all the information you gave me, really helpfull :D

@plantmanager ohhhhh i would cry from happiness if that happend, i really hope that happens eheh, and i really want to thank you for your help c:
Name: Karen
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plantmanager
Nov 10, 2017 1:55 PM CST
I'm the same way, Carolina. I absolutely love any blooms I see, and have to take pics, and make my husband and all visitors see them! Blooms are the Best!
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