Plant ID forum: Western Redbud

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Silversurfer
Nov 18, 2017 1:38 PM CST


Cercidiphyllum japonicum.

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greene
Nov 18, 2017 1:43 PM CST
I was thinking Western Redbud.
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Silversurfer
Nov 18, 2017 2:01 PM CST
greene I had a closer look......you are correct.

Cercidiphyllum japonicum leaves are opposite on a twig

https://landscapeplants.oregon...

Cercis occidentalis are alternate!
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DaisyI
Nov 18, 2017 3:18 PM CST
Yes, Western Redbud. One of my favorite trees.
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ViburnumValley
Nov 18, 2017 7:17 PM CST
Definitely a Cercis sp. - those are clearly alternately arranged simple leaves.

Cercidiphyllum japonicum not only has opposite arrangement of leaves, it will never have the leguminous type of fruit/seed pods shown - which are indicative of a Redbud species.
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DaisyI
Nov 18, 2017 7:40 PM CST
Western Redbuds are very common in California.

https://www.calflora.org/cgi-b...

While Cercidiphyllum japonicum is rare enough that Cal Poly (California Polytechnic State University) keeps a list where you can see one.

https://selectree.calpoly.edu/...
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Silversurfer
Nov 19, 2017 3:59 AM CST
ViburnumValley said:Definitely a Cercis sp. - those are clearly alternately arranged simple leaves.

Cercidiphyllum japonicum not only has opposite arrangement of leaves, it will never have the leguminous type of fruit/seed pods shown - which are indicative of a Redbud species.


Sorry Viburnum.
I confess didn't look carefully enough at pics. I completely overlooked the pods.
When I rechecked I clearly saw leaves were alternate and said as much.

I know and have grown both Cercis and Cercidiphyllum.
It was a very stupid basic error.
What more can I say!

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Name: John
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ViburnumValley
Nov 19, 2017 8:22 PM CST
No need to throw one's self on a sword, Silversurfer.

I am always on the quest to demonstrate to all that observation of the basic plant parts should always be the starting point - despite the urge to look at more gross features such as leaf appearance, flower appearance, and other such things.

Opposite v. alternate leaf/ bud arrangement has been a go-to feature since I joined horticulture after undergraduate training in engineering - where living things had no presence whatsoever. It is a good habit to acquire, for novices as well as veterans.
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Nov 20, 2017 5:44 PM CST
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