Tropicals forum: Malaysian Orchid from seed?

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Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
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EscondidoCal
Nov 21, 2017 4:18 PM CST
Has anyone grown Malaysian Orchids from seed?
How long does it take to get mature flowering plant?

I purchased seeds (20) from SmartSeeds.

I was going to make up a 30% orchid mix + 70% Dr.Earth potting mix, plant the seeds on the surface,
cover with plastic, and keep ~70-80F.
Does that sound OK?

Later......just found this page with good info....
If you are planning on growing the medinilla magnifica from seed, be aware it may be up to three years before the plant is mature enough to flower.

I'll plant the seeds, but may also look for a plant, too.......3yrs is too long to wait.


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Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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ctcarol
Nov 22, 2017 2:56 PM CST
Good luck finding a plant. If you do, it will be pricey.
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
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EscondidoCal
Nov 22, 2017 3:47 PM CST
Good luck finding a plant. If you do, it will be pricey.

Prices vary widely... on Amazon, I saw 8 seeds for $28 from Georgia Vines, but on their site, it's $6 for eight seeds(?)

I went ahead and ordered a pint size plant, Medinilla magnifica, from Georgia Vines for $26 + $3 shipping.

I've ordered from them one other time in July, and was very happy with the plant (a starter Salvia oxyphora that's a 1 gallon now),
the price (only $3 for 3 day delivery from Georgia), selection, and customer service. (I'll ask then about the discrepancy on the seeds
at Amazon vs on their site).

Hope to have it by Friday or Saturday. Thumbs up

Later....I just sent a message to GVs about the seeds for $28 on Amazon supposedly from GVs.
The Amazon seller is in NY, not GA......"caveat emptor!" ;)
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Nov 22, 2017 4:37 PM CST
Just fyi, Medinilla magnifica is not an Orchid.
Btw I see this plant all the time around here at local nurseries, in full bloom!
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
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EscondidoCal
Nov 22, 2017 5:10 PM CST
Ursula said:Just fyi, Medinilla magnifica is not an Orchid.
Btw I see this plant all the time around here at local nurseries, in full bloom!

Good to know it does well in NJ.....l'll have to keep it in a greenhouse as it's fairly dry here.
I checked with 2 local nurseries that I thought would carry it.......they didn't even know what it was! =O



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Name: Alice
Saint Helena Island, SC (Zone 9a)
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ardesia
Nov 22, 2017 6:23 PM CST
Vintage Green in Hawaii has both M. magnifica and M. cummingii, which is a neat plant. I've gotten excellent plant material from Tom and, if you read his shipping section carefully, you'll see where his shipping charges are very reasonable.
http://tom-piergrossi.squaresp...
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Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
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EscondidoCal
Nov 22, 2017 7:35 PM CST
ardesia said:Vintage Green in Hawaii has both M. magnifica and M. cummingii, which is a neat plant. I've gotten excellent plant material from Tom and, if you read his shipping section carefully, you'll see where his shipping charges are very reasonable.
http://tom-piergrossi.squaresp...

Thanks......I didn't know about Vintage Green.

$10 for a 3" pot is reasonable, but $12 for shipping??
Georgia Vines charges only $3.

Later.......
here is the best website I've found for the care & history of Medinilla magnifica.
http://www.medinilla.ca/index....
Great pics......I'm really looking forward to growing & propagating it. Thumbs up

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ardesia
Nov 23, 2017 7:54 AM CST
Looks like six of one and a half dozen of another. Same size pot is $26 at Georgia vines. Seems you will pay about the same no matter which you choose.

These are not uncommon plants though, I have even occasionally seen them in the big box stores although they are generally very large, 2 gallon size, and expensive.
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Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
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Pistil
Nov 23, 2017 11:33 AM CST
I just got a little one from Logees last month, for just $15. They also sell bigger ones for more $$$.

They always sell great plants, this one was in a 2.5 " pot somehow, but was not yet rootbound. It was big enough I repotted it into a 8 1/2 " begonia pot. It it growing rapidly, despite little light here, and looks just right in that pot. I bet I will have to repot it in the spring.

https://www.logees.com/showy-m...

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Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
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EscondidoCal
Nov 23, 2017 1:30 PM CST
ardesia said:Looks like six of one and a half dozen of another. Same size pot is $26 at Georgia vines. Seems you will pay about the same no matter which you choose.

These are not uncommon plants though, I have even occasionally seen them in the big box stores although they are generally very large, 2 gallon size, and expensive.

Is a 3" pot equal to 16oz (1 pint)? I don't really know, but thought it was a 5" from GVs, not a "starter" plant.

It's supposed to be here Saturday, so will see then. If it's a real pint & saves me a year of growth, it's worth it.
But will let you know how large it actually is. Smiling

re: not uncommon plants.......maybe on the East Coast, but evidently not here in San Diego County. I didn't check Home Depot or Lowe's, but
called 2 local nurseries that carry exotic plants, and they were totally unaware of Medinillas.

We need to keep up.....I will spread the word! Thumbs up

pistil said:I just got a little one from Logees last month, for just $15. They also sell bigger ones for more $$$.

They always sell great plants, this one was in a 2.5 " pot somehow, but was not yet rootbound. It was big enough I repotted it into a 8 1/2 " begonia pot. It it growing rapidly, despite little light here, and looks just right in that pot. I bet I will have to repot it in the spring.

WOW!That's a nice looking plant......much larger top growth than I would have thought for 2.5" pot.

I only found out about Medinillas by accident when I ordered milkweed seeds from SmartSeeds, and saw the plant.
But even then, didn't realize how spectacular it can get now that I've looked into it more.

5x4ft??? Gonna need a bigger greenhouse! Rolling my eyes.







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Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
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Pistil
Nov 23, 2017 2:42 PM CST
The 2 1/2" pot is tiny, probably does not even hold 1 cup of soil, so these are much tinier than your pint pot, but the website says it is seed grown, and should bloom in 2-3 years. Since mine will not grow much in the winter due to low light, I am not holding my breath. I think mine grew so well as they had not become rootbound, and was still in a rapid-growing condition.
BTW did you see the magnificent pot they have the one in the photo in? I may have to redecorate my entire house to accommodate a flamboyant pink flower in a Italian Rococco pot! (Current house is rustic woodsy with orange and red).
I had never seen one in a greenhouse around Seattle, but fell in love with it on Logees website. I liked the photo and bio. Internet romance, gardener style.
My plan is ultimately to put this on a big table in my living room near the east windows. Currently I have a big3x4 foot Philodendron there, but now it's days are numbered...
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
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EscondidoCal
Nov 23, 2017 4:54 PM CST
There are some good pics on this site dedicated to it, though not a vendor.
http://www.medinilla.ca/index....

I think it will look great in almost any dark pot when it's young.
You won't even see the pot when it's mature.......will have to put it on a pedestal or hanging basket.
Wish I'd know about it years ago......better late than never. Smiling

BTW, I think you can propagate it by cuttings, too......so if it grows quickly, you may be able to
start a few more in the spring....then more in the fall......this could get out of hand! =O

Besides filling the greenhouse and living room with them, I hope to raise some for gifts to friends & family, too. ;)
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