Nov 26, 2017 8:02 PM CST
Name: Pamela Gregory
Md (Zone 6b)
Gardening A Perfect antidepressant
11/27/17 02:47
Update Im still not 100% sure the issue. I guess my post is a mess now but this plants dosent seem to have an issue. Looks been watered correctly dried correctly then I found what look like a large burn with bunch of soil/gravel like inside as you see in the pics in this comment.
Iv cleaned it up now and i may have 2 ideas now.
My second is ... water held im bottom of this plant like a pocket one of the lights was close to the plant and it magnified thur water n caused large burn on my plant. The black gravel like stuff is dirt!
So sinceI am not 100 .
Can someone gives me some ideas ? ? Idk whatto do at this point.
Im adding more photos. Sorry about the messy post!! šŸ˜¶
Thanks everyone! !!

Can someone tell me what this damage on my plant is???
If it's a disease just lie to me and say... idk! No matter what I'm gonna be a sad woman !!!
anyways idk what to say the plant dont seem to be having any issues . Its very healthy and its perfect like it has been for years. A few months ago I repotted it without issue. Few weeks ago it was moved back inside the house with no issue. The only thing different is lighting.
Please me know if anyone has any idea what the heck is going on here!!!

Pictures; I broke open the bottom of stalk like some so you could see inside Like I was seeing it.
It just look likes It burned up but I don'tbelieve the

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I put plastic around top to avoid soaking my soil then took pics n then removing plastic.

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Nov 26, 2017 9:06 PM CST
Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
Houseplants Orchids Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mexico Sedums Tropicals
How deep into the leaf base does that stuff go. You may see if you can't get an even closer pic.

Are the edges of leaves down there chewed away. It almost looks like black eggs. It's really nothing I recall seeing before. BRB
Nov 26, 2017 9:13 PM CST
Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
Houseplants Orchids Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mexico Sedums Tropicals
There is a pest and disease forum you could utilize here also. If you don't get a plan quick, I would really take a stream of water and wash that stuff out. I am anxious to learn what on earth that is.
Nov 27, 2017 12:22 AM CST
Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
Houseplants Orchids Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mexico Sedums Tropicals
I am not seeing identical damage but look into lily borer. I am still looking. You may consider asking the lily people for images.
Nov 27, 2017 12:37 AM CST
Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
Houseplants Orchids Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mexico Sedums Tropicals
Stalk borer possibility.

Nov 27, 2017 4:22 AM CST
Name: Pamela Gregory
Md (Zone 6b)
Gardening A Perfect antidepressant
I have a very important update .. couple things I'll try to shorten up..
1st I took a few more pics as we know my camera works great sometimes but more often then not it sucks!! So here is what I found at 5AM in the morning.
As I was preparing to take a pictures of the plant again I see baby like gnats flying around the plant and flying closely around on leaves and around base of plant.
Now here is another factor I had not added to this issue, until now. In the past few weeks we noticed these gnats around our house driving us crazy! So a few of you already know where this is going I'm betting because with in all this crap is the answer.. I do believe.. Sticking tongue out
K, The gnats .. we done a search on line came up with this gnats called Fungas gnats also fruit flies/gnats. I thought fruit flies and a few people thought Fungas gnats and that offened me because I'm a butt sometimes! I insisted " only to myself " it wasn't a Fungas gnats because that would mean there is bugs in my plants and my plants had no issues!! See how I'm a jerk sometimes...
This all happened throughout the last 7 to 10 days. So in my defense we keep a basket on the table that's always has fresh veggies n fruits in it. I personally have delt with the fruit flies before and I thought were ok at that time. Everything done so well moving it inside ect.. and I had learned here last year to drop my watering for winter and I try not to soak my plants in the winter because I had a hard drying them in the past so I water daily or every other day but nothing gets soaked and they have a fan 24/ 7. Right now my plant are about dry for the most part I watered them yesterday. Also I read on Orkin web site it's pretty common to have both gnats.
I believe this is the answer. I have Fungas gnats and fruit flies/gnats. Now the questions are:
1.) Am I correct?
2.)if so , will neem kill this bug?
3:) if neem will not kill this yucky pest then what will kill it?
I went ahead added new pics. I don't think that's going to be much help. I do not believe my camera picked up the gnats crawling on the plant or flying around it. I just thought maybe one of these will be better than the 1st ones posted.

Thanks everyone Group hug for your help,and your time. Have a greater Monday than the last?!?! Idk sounded good in my Sticking tongue out mind... Shrug! Shrug!

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Nov 27, 2017 7:04 AM CST
Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
Houseplants Orchids Region: Pacific Northwest Region: Mexico Sedums Tropicals
Hi again: Great detective work.

MarathonĀ® contains 1% imidacloprid, This is a insecticide so If you are against using this I understand. I don't have an ounce of patience for fungus gnats so I start with the big guns.

There is a post about clivea and fungus gnats right on this forum. Here is a link to it.

The thread "Clivia plant" in Ask a Question forum
Pyrethrins is another chemical to get rid of fungus gnats. I read that because the gnats spread fungal disease you should treat with a fungicide two days after the chemical treatment to prevent a disease.

Good luck.
Nov 27, 2017 10:33 AM CST
Name: Pamela Gregory
Md (Zone 6b)
Gardening A Perfect antidepressant
Thanks a million! I was trying to get around to looking more information up. Thanks for the link.
Have you ever tried Neem to kill the gnats?
Maybe someone else will know about that. Thanks again! I gratefully appreciate it! ! Group hug
Lovey dubby
Nov 27, 2017 10:46 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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In my opinion, the new pics are indeed telling, and it looks to me like the problem has cured itself once it was able to dry out. That was fortunate that you decided to cut the area open to see what was going on, as I think that is what has save it from the infection progressing. I think it was just a matter of water setting in the crevices for too long that spawned the rot.

Adult Fungus gnats (the stage that flies) don't cause damage. Even at the larval stage, they rarely cause meaningful damage, unless populations are very high. (The exception might be with vulnerable seedlings.) The larvae prefer to eat dead matter in the soil. But even a few are a nuisance for us humans. If that is a fruit fly, I not up on the ramifications there.
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Nov 27, 2017 5:48 PM CST
Name: Will Creed
Prof. plant consultant & educator
I have never seen anything quite like what appears to be some type of insect eggs. Fungus gnat larvae are usually found in damp soil rather than on plant issue.

The important thing is that it appears that you have successfully eradicated the roe (caviar maybe?!!). I would be vigilant at this point. Keep your Clivia in a moderately bright location and allow it to dry very deep into the pot before watering lightly. Daily light waterings are NOT a good idea. The top couple of inches of soil need to dry out in between waterings. In fact, fungus gnat larvae live in the top inch or two of soil so if you are seeing flying gnats they may be coming from the damp soil. Allowing the soil to dry deep into the pot will not only be better for the plant it will deprive the gnat larvae of the moisture they need to survive. N need to water more than once per week at most.
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