Plant Database forum: Should this Genus be added to the DB?

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Dec 3, 2017 4:07 PM CST
When I type that name into the search bar, it takes me to the genus Xerochrysum and the ones I checked show Bracteantha as a synonym but CoL lists Bracteantha as a genus. Confused

Bracteantha acuminata
Bracteantha bicolor
Bracteantha palustris
Bracteantha papillosa
Bracteantha subundulata
Bracteantha viscosa

The way this one reads is a bit confusing:
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Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Dec 3, 2017 4:08 PM CST
Green Grin! Well, it looks like the odd one was deleted while I was posting.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 4:31 PM CST

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I merged the odd one with an existing entry in our database.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Dec 3, 2017 5:00 PM CST
@zuzu I tried adding a new plant to the database (with the first one below) but got a message that it is an invalid genus .. or maybe I'm reading it incorrectly at the CoL page? CoL lists the following in the genus Bracteantha.

Bracteantha acuminata: http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
Bracteantha bicolor: http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
Bracteantha palustris: http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
Bracteantha papillosa: http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
Bracteantha subundulata: http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
Bracteantha viscosa: http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 6:50 PM CST

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Oh, these taxonomists are going to drive all of us nuts. All of our earlier Bracteantha entries were reclassified as Xerochrysum species. Now a bunch of Helichrysum entries will be reclassified as Bracteantha. I'll take care of these, Lin. Thank you for finding them.
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Dec 3, 2017 6:54 PM CST
Zuzu, I don't know how y'all keep up with what seems like constant classifications changes; I sure appreciate your hard work! Thumbs up
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 7:00 PM CST

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We can't even begin to keep up, Lin. Hilarious! There are so many genera I'm not even aware of, so I don't know when they might change. With help from people like you, however, we are able to find entries that need to be created or updated, so thank you very much.
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Dec 3, 2017 7:25 PM CST
Oh my goodness, you are very welcome! I know so little about plant science so I'm very thankful for this forum and our database administrators. When I can't find a plant in our database, I sometimes have to double and triple check my spelling and with my eyesight, it's a bit difficult. We moved and my insurance changed so I have to get new doctors. I hope to have cataract surgery scheduled after the first of the year; I called a couple of weeks ago and it seems they are currently scheduling for the March/April/May time frame ... I should have had the surgery a year ago!

It's so wonderful that our administrators/monitors are trying to keep the garden.org database current, making it the best plant database on the web! Thumbs up
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 7:33 PM CST

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I had cataract surgery on both eyes a little over a year ago. It makes a huge, huge, huge difference.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Dec 3, 2017 7:55 PM CST
My sister had cataracts removed from both eyes a year ago and she said the same thing. Everyone I know who've had cataracts removed over the years say they can't believe how clearly they see afterwards. A doctor told me it's because cataracts are usually slow growing and change in vision is not noticeable for quite awhile until the cloudiness really takes over.

My sister paid an extra $5k out of pocket ($2,500 for each eye) for some sort of special lenses so that she supposedly won't ever have to wear glasses again for reading or distance! I'm not sure what that's all about because I've known many people over the years who've had cataract surgery but I never heard about any "new", special lenses . If I'm given a choice, I plan on having the regular lens implants. I only wear glasses for reading the newspaper and very small print; I don't need them for the computer ... so we'll see after I have the initial consultation with the surgeon.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 8:32 PM CST

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There is a special lens to cover nearsightedness and farsightedness, or some people get one in one eye and the other in the other. I opted to correct nearsightedness in both eyes. I can buy reading glasses at the dollar store, whereas glasses for nearsightedness or bifocals were costing me hundreds of dollars every few years.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 8:39 PM CST

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Also, it's not just a difference in clarity, Lin. There's a difference in color perception as well. Without realizing it, I had virtually lost my ability to see yellow over the years. I was amazed all year when plants bloomed and I'd see that previously white roses turned out to be pale yellow, familiar red blooms were actually orange. etc.
Name: Arlene
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pirl
Dec 3, 2017 8:48 PM CST
My only complaint with cataract surgery on both eyes is that the glare of the sun, and headlights, is much more of a problem than ever before. On the positive side, I no longer wash comforters and curtains as often since they weren't dirty - it was the cataracts that made them appear more yellow.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Dec 3, 2017 9:00 PM CST

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Yes, age affects us in different ways. Your cataracts intensified yellow for you, Pirl, and mine erased yellow for me. I also have no problem with glare now, but I certainly did before the surgery. I had to wear sunglasses for years, even inside. Now I don't.
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Dec 4, 2017 10:23 AM CST
Yes, I guess with the implanted lenses, it's like contact lenses; I'm nearsighted and I've had correction with contacts and/or glasses for distance since I was in my early 30's but then when I was late 40's or early 50's, I began to have the age related issue with small print Smiling so I was wearing cheater glasses for close up reading. I have many friends who have the monovision contact lenses; one for distance correction and the other for close up but I tried those lenses for awhile but never could get used to them.

About 6 years ago, I began to notice a change in my eyesight and felt that I could see better without contacts, so I began to only wear them when I was going to be driving (because I had a restriction on my license for corrective lenses). When it was time for my next annual eye exam, I had a new opthalmologist who asked me why I was wearing contact lenses. I told her that I'd been wearing glasses or contacts for distance for years and she said that I no longer needed them, sight in one eye was 20/20 and the other was almost 20/20; so she gave me a note to take to the DL office to have the restriction for corrective lenses removed from my drivers license. So, for a few years I needed no vision correction; then about 2 years ago I began noticing a big change and was told the cataracts had grown but they didn't need to be removed until I was ready. Last year I was given a rx for new glasses which I wear when I'm driving but they don't help a lot so I don't drive often, or very far. My vision has progressively gotten to the point this past year that I know it's time to get rid of the cataracts.

Zuzu, I'd forgotten about color perception improving after cataract removal; I think I remember a friend mentioning that after her cataract surgery!

Pirl, I haven't driven at night in 40 years due to the glare of headlights being a huge problem. I've had issues with glare for many, many years and I always wear dark sunglasses whenever I'm outside.
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot! ~


Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
pirl
Dec 4, 2017 10:49 AM CST
I do wear sunglasses inside at the kitchen table where it's much too bright and harsh. Outside, even on overcast days, I wear sunglasses. I very seldom drive at night and never drive far.

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