Daylilies forum: I need a color..Bright Orange

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Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 6, 2017 6:59 AM CST
I've been searching for the brightest (think Screamcicle) orange Dips with little success. Did discover Walter's Tango and the kind folks at Park Lane Daylilies have me on their list to buy this one in the spring. Looks like Cochenour-Kennedy and Gossard (Tet conversion) are using Walter's Tango with great success. But I want more. The database is only showing 4 choices when I set parameters of Dip/orange bloom. Sigh. Any one out there who can steer me to more choices?
Name: Ken
East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
Region: California
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CaliFlowers
Dec 6, 2017 1:31 PM CST
Maybe Chesapeake Crablegs? There's a good picture at Maryann Pruden's Lily House
http://www.lilyhouseonline.com...

You might go on an orange dip hunt by looking at orange tets and see if there are any conversions in the background.

Tranquil Lake Nursery has their main catalog separated into lists by color, maybe some others do too. Heavenly Gardens has a search engine on their site.
http://www.tranquil-lake.com/

Download PDF daylily catalogs where they're available and search through them with your PDF viewer.

Brett Clement does a lot of work with dip UFs look around his site
http://www.clementgarden.com

I think the color 'Orange' has been a dirty word among daylily hybridizers, so try a different search method in the database here. Select 'Diploid' in the drop-down, but don't put a check in the 'Orange' box, instead, enter Orange into the 'Color description' box. You'll have to wade through a lot of hits, but you may find something. Try 'burnt' too.

As a last resort, look around for some true yellows and clear reds that have been proven as good parents and make babies.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 6, 2017 5:50 PM CST
Thank you for the links! I had checked Tranquil Lakes, love that site, with no success. The link for Clement is appreciated. I think in the mad dash to get away from the "species" look, a very valuable color (hybridizing tool) has been ignored. Thank you for your help, I'll keep looking. And looking forward to my Walter's Tango. I do have several other oranges including Chesapeake Crablegs. But none with the heat/intensity/clarity that one sees in the orange Tets. I think that's a shame.
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Name: Char
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Char
Dec 6, 2017 7:00 PM CST

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A few more ideas...

The Shooters have been hybridizing dips for years....found two possibles Orange U Hot and Orange Rush
http://mariettagardens.com/Int...

A friend who loves orange daylilies went crazy trying to find Joe's Jumpin Pumpkin Man after seeing it in a tour garden....

Dan Bachman does dips....
http://www.vendio.com/stores/v...
Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Dec 6, 2017 10:50 PM CST
The brightest, clearest, most saturated orange diploid that I grow is a double - 'Flower Pavilion', (Kirchoff, 1985). It's large bloom on a nicely taller scape. It's a double that will breed with no trouble finding usable anthers.

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Name: Juli
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daylily
Dec 7, 2017 3:42 AM CST
Dottie Warrell has worked with oranges.

When I think orange dip. I think of Safety Flare. Older, but a good one that carries over a distance with good size blooms. I took this image at the hybridizers.



For smaller orange dip, I grow Little Boy Bob. It has smaller flowers on normal height scapes, but puts out a lot of them. This image was taken in my garden a few years back where Little Boy Bob looked great among the perennials.
Name: Julie
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floota
Dec 7, 2017 5:31 AM CST
Ellen Laprises FLAMING FLAMINGO and BOB MARLEY are both excellent oranges, and grow here along with SCREAMCICLE. Ellen is from MA, so they'd do better in the north. Then there's an oldie from Stu Morton(who lived in PA) called KRAKATOA LAVA. I think I've posted pics of all of these before. All excellent, and some of the best bright oranges here.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 7, 2017 6:18 AM CST
All gorgeous, Julie! But, all Tets. And I love Warrell, Juli , but hadn't seen "Safety Flare" which is just gorgeous! I have no idea why I thought I couldn't afford to shop Marietta, thanks for that link, Char! Orange Rush is gonna be mine! Thanks All and I stand corrected. There are some stunning orange dips out there! And, Judy, I'm not at all sure what to do with doubles. I received Bernie's Fault as a gift from Williams last spring, it is a nice rich orange, if I can figure out how best to use it.


Name: Ashton & Terry
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kidfishing
Dec 7, 2017 10:13 AM CST
We grow thousands of daylilies and a favorite of garden visitors is Heavenly Dragon Fire. It is a tet but just indicates that vivid orange flowers draw attention.
I hybridize dips primarily and most of the orange ones that I grow are blends.

In my hybridizing, I want to try:
to create an orange with a black eye
to create an orange with a white watermark

We do like our orange!

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You have to get some flowers to work with and then it just takes time. I think there are more vivid orange tets than dips but I have collected a variety of dips. Also, it is not that difficult to take a double and create single blooms.

Discover the Stars
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Flaming Jupiter
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Little Boy Bob
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Whatchamacallit
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Seeding from Mandarin Meltdown
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Another seedling from Mandarin Meltdown
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Hobbit
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Mandarin Meltdown seedling
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Bittersweet Honey
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Little Lighthouse
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I also grow Indian Ripple and Mandarin Meltdown.

And dreaming of this seedling of the future Hilarious!
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Or maybe this one Lovey dubby
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Kidfishing
Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Dec 7, 2017 9:28 PM CST
Diane Bremer (from Solaris Farms) is a beautiful (light) orange. I get loads of comments on it in the garden.

Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Dec 7, 2017 10:37 PM CST
petruske said:Diane Bremer (from Solaris Farms) is a beautiful (light) orange. I get loads of comments on it in the garden.



It is pretty, but it's a tet.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 8, 2017 3:38 AM CST
Gotta have Dips. Nothing against Tets, just have already committed myself in that direction.
Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Dec 8, 2017 11:05 AM CST
I added this little dip this year, it is a mini or small flower though (can't remember which off the top of my head) and from Europe so not sure if you will find it in the US, thought that I would show it just in case Smiling

Boitzer Mandarin


Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 8, 2017 12:41 PM CST
Thank you! That one is darling and it just so happens, smaller is just what I'm looking for.
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Dec 8, 2017 2:00 PM CST
If you are looking for small, there is the mini, Bertie Ferris.
It blooms for a very long time in my garden.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 8, 2017 6:12 PM CST
I keep going back to that one in my searches, Valerie. It's shorter than what I want, but maybe I can fix that in the next generation. It's inexpensive and very easy to find. Worth a try! Thank you.
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Name: Mike
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Dec 9, 2017 11:36 AM CST
Tina Bertie does well here also. Justin George is another mini.
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Centerton one starts early and reblooms. occasionally doubles.
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Dec 9, 2017 11:40 AM CST
You might contact Anna Carlson and ask her about 'Woodlands Scarlet Ibis'. I haven't seen it in person, but I'm guessing it's a vivid red orange and its stats indicate it would be quite tall. She could answer any questions and if she has it for sale and you were interested, she has sent very good fans to me.
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Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Dec 9, 2017 2:41 PM CST
Guess I should have mentioned the oranges I already have. Chesapeake Crab legs, Bernie's Fault, Justin George, Whatchamacallit, Twiggy, Gadsden Firefly, Peanut Butter Frenzy, and Minnie Wildfire. The last two may not be considered orange, but that's the way they read to my eyes. Thanks for the tip on Scarlet Ibis, I was looking at pictures of, now know where I might find it.
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Name: Donald
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Dec 9, 2017 3:32 PM CST
beenthere said:Guess I should have mentioned the oranges I already have. Chesapeake Crab legs, Bernie's Fault, Justin George, Whatchamacallit, Twiggy, Gadsden Firefly and Minnie Wildfire. The last two may not be considered orange, but that's the way they read to my eyes. Thanks for the tip on Scarlet Ibis, I was looking at pictures of, now know where I might find it.


Here's a direct link. I think it will work:

http://ravencroftcottage.com/H...
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